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editThis talk page, about the initial concept that ultimately led to the Epcot theme park, was liberated from Talk:Epcot on June 1, 2006.
I have made several additions. I would like to see sources from Walt Disney and the Promise of Progress City, Married to the Mouse, Project Future, etc. Also, there is a lot of information on the Original Epcot website. I'm hoping people will like my additions and will add additional sources and details. I am most familiar with Walt Disney and the Quest for Community and had to rely on it a lot. Hopefully, that will change. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.141.199.154 (talk) 18:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Rationale for the recategorization
editTo better explain my thoughts about recategorizing: The original EPCOT as planned by Walt Disney wasn't going to be so much a "Mickey in a spacesuit" thing (which is what the park turned out to be) as it was to be an innovative (for the time) way to design a city from the ground up. Thus I removed this article from all the Disney categories except for Category:Epcot. It seems the most appropriate place for it, and also avoids the previous case, where we had the same article in three categories that were subcategories of each other. I also added the article to Category:Planned cities, since listing this in an urban planning category is perhaps more important than listing it in a Disney category.
So there you go. SchuminWeb (Talk) 13:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Additional Resources
editYou can find great content in these books:
- Walt Disney and the Quest for Community by Mannheim, Steve. Routledge, © 2017 ISBN:0754619745
- Married to the Mouse: Walt Disney World and Orlando by Foglesong. Richard E, Yale University Press, © July 2001 ISBN:0300087071
The name of the book listed in the sources is "since the world began", not "before the world began". by the way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.190.216.2 (talk) 17:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for doing such a great job on this article. I may add more content if I come across additional useful content.
webmaster at waltopia.com aka IdeaSandbox 16:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
- Great stuff! We appreciate it a lot. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The Big Dig?
editThe concept of submerging vehicle traffic to leave the way clear for a pedestrian community is one of the main ideas behind Boston's Big Dig. While I'm guessing there's no direct connection between this and Disney's EPCOT ideas, perhaps a section on any possible influences of EPCOT-style ideas in modern city planning might be useful. --69.108.110.152 18:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- Unless it can be documented in reliable sources that it was at all influenced by Disney's failed concept, I would leave it out. In other words, let's not go there. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Idea to think about.
editThis sounds like communism.151.204.23.96 15:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking exactly the same thing while reading this article, but we can't really mention that in a Wikipedia article.Cdevon2 (talk) 16:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Progress City Model Photo
editThe Progress City Model depicting E.P.C.O.T. is publicly displayed at WDW and a good free photograph of it would be great to add to this article. The problem being that taking a good one is difficult with it only visible on the PeopleMover. Elzbenz (talk) 16:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
EPCOT
editIn Walt Disneys' own words, the name EPCOT was short for "Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow, not "... Community of Tomorrow" Ref https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iVkr7YbfvI 2603:8000:FC41:3B40:24EF:B43C:9C26:5BA1 (talk) 23:57, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Walt's Illness
editThe article mentions Walt's illness and how his death marked the end of the concept all together. I suggest including a section that describes how Walt's relationships with colleges affected the development of EPCOT. His charisma and dedication to the project pushed employees to work further despite their doubts of success as well as allowed Walt to secure funding through corporate partnerships.
Additionally, the EPCOT system expected for all citizens to obey rules established by Walt Disney himself similar to other company towns like Henry Ford's Fordlandia. These systems highlight the leader's need for absolute control on projects and those that live within them.
The Original EPCOT Project holds an impressive record of images related to the project's development. Ref https://sites.google.com/site/theoriginalepcot/home Mrj0037 (talk) 00:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)