Talk:E-Defense

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The result was: promoted by Hilst talk 20:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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[[File:|140px|A house on the E-Defense shake table ]]

A house on the E-Defense shake table

• ... that E-Defense (pictured) is the world's largest 3D earthquake shake table?

• Source: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/largest-3d-earthquake-shake-table

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 Summer Paralympics opening ceremony

Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 06:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC).

• By coincidence, I was actually happening to look up discussions of "Guinness records" in WP's project-space pages hours before press time. From what I've gathered, Guinness World Records was a more reliable source before ownership changes during the 2000s decade,^{The studio behind Thomas the Tank Engine, of all companies, owned it at one point—true story} and newer record categories may or may not hold scrutiny by the standards of WP or the expectations of other editors. Leaving it to other DYK reviewers to decide whether this case should be accepted. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 06:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

• Looking through the Guinness World Record Site, it's one of those records that nobody else seems to be able to apply for anymore. (And given that our own article describes Guinness as a native advertising company, with no clear distinction between content and advertisement, even if this isn't one of their pay-to-play records we have no way of knowing if its accurate anymore). Looking at the paper, the other source provided for the claim, the first author "was inaugurating director of E-Defense". This hook will need much better sourcing. Or a different hook? @Panamitsu:. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

• I've also nominated the image for deletion at Commons as a copyvio. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:48, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

• Slgrandson, GreenLipstickLesbian, do you think this is a good source? https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428670-100-japans-record-breaking-quake-shaking-table/ ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
• I have had a look too. I think that the New Scientist source holds up, but I also see that there is new earthquake shaking system being built in China (Tianjin Uni, National Facility for Earthquake Engineering .. https://instrumentation.co.uk/mts-awarded-seismic-simulation-project-for-chinas-national-facility-for-earthquake-engineering-simulation/) that will become the biggest shake table (20m x 16 m) when commissioned in the next year or so. It might be better to try a new hook:

• ALT1 ... that when it was commissioned in 2005, E-Defense was the world's largest 3D earthquake shake table? Chaiten1 (talk) 19:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

In terms of the DYK process, the article is new enough, and free from copyvio. QPQ has been done. I think that what remains to be done is to adjust the hook; to tweak the text in the lede of the article, for consistency, and include the fact quoted in the hook with a citation in the main body of the article. @Panamitsu: Chaiten1 (talk) 20:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, @Chaiten1:. I have tweaked the text in the article, but am unsure what you mean about hte hook and a citation. Could you clarify? ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you for the edits @Panamitsu:. Good to go (with ALT1) Chaiten1 (talk) 08:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)