Talk:Dwarf pufferfish/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 20:46, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Taxonomy

• "was first described as Tetraodon (Monotretus) travancoricus" --- no it wasn't, it was described as just one binomial; it's actually unclear which genus that was as Hora & Nair 1941 is ambiguous --- their text uses Monotretus whereas their title uses both (perhaps the heading was updated by a sub-editor, or something). It looks as if an additional ref or explanation is needed here.
  • It's just the subgenus. I updated the article to explain the use of parenthases.
• We need to know who assigned the species to Tetraodon, and also to Carinotetraodon.
  • The section says Tetraodon was Hora and Nair and Carinotetraodon was Britz and Kottelat.
• C. imitator is missing from the cladogram; its position is of some interest as readers will wonder whether it is a very close relative, or not. A ref may be needed.

• Are other species also missing? If so, that may be fine, the tree just giving an overview, but if that is the position and intention you must say so.
  • Updated paragraph, including note about C. imitator.

• Given that "Carinotetraodon" is polyphyletic, I suggest you place it in inverted commas (as shown here) in the cladogram at least, to indicate that there is an issue with the name. You might want to add a note to that effect just above the cladogram.
  • Done.

• Suggest you replace the "[a]" footnotes in the cladogram with the plain (not footnote) letters "FW" and just write (freshwater species are marked "FW") in the sentence about the cladogram. (Actually, if anyone thinks that the clade that includes Leiodon and Pao, and the Tetraodon clade, are basally freshwater then it'd be nicer to use "|sublabel="FW"" for those clades. But I guess nobody has proposed that?)
  • Done.

Description

• Wikilink iridescent.
  • In the image description? The paragraph already has it.
• "may or may not show" => "may have".
  • Fixed.
• "also have skin spines" => cut the "also".
  • Fixed.
• The section on C. imitator feels repetitive given that we were already told the 2 species were alike in "Taxonomy". It might be best just to remove the gloss on C. imitator from "Taxonomy", but the overlap needs some attention.
  • What about changing the sentence in 'Taxonomy' to just 'The first use of "Carinotetraodon travancoricus" was in 1999 by R. Britz and M. Kottelat when first describing Carinotetraodon imitator.'?
    • Something like that.
• "pufferfish will" --- cut the "will".
  • Fixed.

Distribution and habitat

Dwarf pufferfish distribution map

• "27 known species of Tetraodontidae known to be adapted" => "27 species of Tetraodontidae adapted". All species are by definition "described", "known", etc.
  • Fixed.

• The list of rivers is somewhat bewildering even to those of us who've been to Kerala. I suggest that a map with the rivers and water bodies indicated (could be a symbol like a small circle on each one) would be far more readily understood. There are many blank maps ready for use on Commons, or we could draw a new one. (I can lend a hand if you like.)
  • I would appreciate your help. I tried to approach making one a long time ago, but I didn't know what I was doing.
    • Try the attached. The distribution area takes into account all the data in the article; I haven't tried to cite it (on Commons or here) but it ought to be done.
      • Map looks accurate. Thank you so much! I'm currently trying to find a way to group all the relevant refs without losing their names so that I can clean up the 'Distribution and habitat' section and give the map a citation.

• "The expansive range of their distribution" --- what? "Expansive" could mean "growing" or "all over Eurasia" or something else. Needs rewording.
  • What about truncating to "Their appearances in small, secluded bodies of water is likely mediated in part by piscivorous birds inadvertently dispersing individuals."?
    • In the right direction but the wording is a bit gnarly; aim to be simple and clear.
      • Changed. Also changed 'piscivorous birds' to 'waterfowl' as per ref.

• "migratory, or potamodromous" --- well, for a species limited to a small area of one state, this is a surprise. Perhaps the map will clarify things, or perhaps some explanation is needed.
  • I reworded the sentence. They just swim along rivers, really. Unfortunately, all I can find for info is a book that confirms they migrate, but doesn't give further information on why they do so.

* "also inhabit the Thattekad Bird Sanctuary." Is that on one of the 13 rivers or disjoint from that area? Not clear why one 2007 survey gets all this separate attention, looks WP:UNDUE, and the material about waterfowl looks close to off-topic, if not simply repetitious given "mediated in part by piscivorous birds inadvertently dispersing individuals" just above. Suggest merge it into the main paragraph (and condense it).

• • I'm okay with cutting this part entirely. It was added because in a year-old review, someone asked for information on predation. Same goes for the natural defences section.

Diet and behaviour

• "The results of studies indicated dwarf pufferfish favour" => "Dwarf pufferfish favour"
  • Done.
• "Cladocera" => "water fleas".
  • Done.
• "Ostracods" => "seed shrimps".
  • Done.
• "the larvae of Odonata, Ephemeroptera, Hemiptera, and Diptera,": might be better to say "aquatic larvae such as of ..."
  • Done. Also changed 'Ephemeroptera' to 'mayflies' and 'Diptera' to 'flies' to align with your other suggestions.
• "small snails such as ramshorn snails, bladder snails, and Malaysian trumpet snails" --- not convinced the list of types is justified here, we're not a petshop. Probably being euryphagous they'd eat any small pond snail.
  • Changed.
• "Sand and detritus, presumably ingested by mistake when feeding on small, bottom-dwelling animals, have also been found in the gut of dwarf pufferfish." A bit klunky; why not just drop the "of dwarf pufferfish".
  • Changed.
• "are known to experience" => "experience".
  • Fixed.

Reproduction

• "with larvae and fry initially fed infusoria, Brachionus, frozen bloodworms, and brine shrimp when they are a week old": better add "in captivity" just before this phrase. Suggest you gloss Brachionus with "rotifers".
  • Done.
• " a mean of 3.15 mm (0.124 in) TL" --- please spell out "total length".
  • Done.
• "will live" => "live".
  • Done.

Images

• "An adult dwarf pufferfish" --- per the Principle of Some Surprise, suggest you cut the caption down to "Adult": we've been told in large boldface type, three times, that this is a Dwarf pufferfish close to the image already.
  • Looking at other good articles about fish (Ambassis macleayi, Acanthopagrus butcheri), I think it's safe to remove the caption entirely.
• "Dwarf pufferfish have dark, iridescent patches on their flanks and dorsal surfaces" --- seems to apply only to males?
  • Why do you think it might only be males? As far as I've read, both males and females have iridescent patches. Only males have iridescent 'eye wrinkles'.
• "A juvenile dwarf pufferfish in an aquarium" => Suggest you simply say "Juvenile" here, per the above; but you might want to add a brief comment on how it differs from the adult.
  • Changed. I haven't found descriptions of juveniles in any reliable sources, so any description I give is based on hobbyists' or my own observations, unfortunately.
• All images appear to be properly licensed on Commons.

Sources

• The National Geographic source [11] is just about (barely) acceptable, but it does not mention this species. The Seattle Aquarium source [13] is probably even less acceptable really, and it doesn't mention this species either. I think the first paragraph of "Natural defences" is thus close to wandering off-topic. Please cut down the non-dwarf material to the bare minimum. If we can find better sources, then let's replace these two altogether.
  • Removed Seattle Aquarium, added better sources and information.
• Refs [8] and [9] authors should be in Last, First format.
  • The author's name is T. V. Anna Mercy. 'Anna Mercy' are both attributed as last names. Fixed the other one.
• Refs [14] and [38] should use the cite book template.
  • Fixed.
• Ref [33] Froese Pauly seems to be broken. Maybe you can find an archive or other source. However the title as written names C. lorteti so it looks like a mistake to assume that the claim applies also to C. travancoricus?
  • Removed. It was about C. lorteti.
• Ref [40] may be acceptable (German is permitted; it's locatable only with difficulty (aquarium libraries in Germany?), but in theory verifiable) but it's quite unclear that it's necessary here.
  • Removed.

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