Talk:Dukes classification
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Apostrophe after "Dukes"
editSometimes, convention outweighs normal grammar rules. Some evidence:
1. Usage in medical literature such as PMID 20070342 as found by searching on www.pubmed.com
2. Search "dukes classification colon cancer apostophe" on Google and take a look at the PDF document by the name of "CANCER CLASSIFICATION AND GUIDELINES • Stages and Grades of Cancer ..."
3. Usage as in http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/373324-overview
No apostrophe. --AaronM (talk) 12:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Wrong - http://www.springerlink.com/content/682p90ye0f1f2cr6/
It is both correct grammar to use Dukes' and it is the accepted norm. 203.45.11.48 (talk) 22:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- The Book of Style for Medical Transcription states on page 358 explicitly that no apostrophe is used, either before or after the S. The text of this book is available at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/7552627/BOS-Sample-Chapters , where the paragraph of relevance can be found on page 69/77. In addition, Abeloff's Clinical Oncology (the definitive text in the field) refers to Dukes stages without apostrophe. Do we need to get a board-certified oncologist to mediate this, or what? --AaronM (talk) 13:07, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Medline searches reveal that individual authors vary in their use of the apostrophe. Some use it, some don't. However, individuals certainly make mistakes, especially as these authors are most likely concerned with their science rather than their grammar. I have yet to find any sources on medical grammatical convention or style that states that the apostrophe is needed. If any such source exists, please bring it to the discussion. In the mean time, I think the apostrophe should be omitted in accordance with the recommendations of The Book of Style for Medical Transcription. --AaronM (talk) 18:14, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/3070.html http://www.springerlink.com/content/682p90ye0f1f2cr6/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukes'_disease
Sorry, but I take the word of surgeons ahead of the word of medical typists. The correct spelling is Dukes' classification with Dukes' A, Dukes' B etc. If you want to get petty with grammar rules, it should be Dukes's A actually. The accepted norm, however, as described by surgeons (not medical typists) is Dukes' A. 203.45.11.48 (talk) 01:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Article name change
editI am not sure who can change it, but it looks silly for the article to be called "Dukes classification" when it is clearly "Dukes' classification". Can an admin please move the article to its correct spelling? 203.4.164.1 (talk) 01:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)