Talk:Drug use in music
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Although I enjoyed reading this article
editthere are just too many "Citation needed" tags after a reference to "a study" when the study is not referenced. Petty soon these have to go. Much (most?) of the article seems to be based on a 2005 (2007?) study, which cam be a good reference or two but not the entire article. Any thoughts before I slash and burn? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:44, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
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I removed this whole paragraph
edit- "The larger context of the developing music industry was such that Depression-era music often portrayed positive, uplifting lyrics in the attempt to encourage listeners in the midst of harsh economic times as well as times of much social ills; sentimental ballads enjoyed much popularity. Songs written by Irving Berlin, for instance, did particularly well from 1920 to 1940. When the United States' military involvement in World War II picked up, the subjects of a great deal of records evolved, with musicians promoting what was seen as American values and also providing support for fighting against the Axis Powers.[citation needed] A notable example is 1942's "There's a Star-Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere", which country star Elton Britt turned into an immense hit record selling between one and four million copies.[1]"
because it has nothing to do with drugs. I think there is more to follow. Carptrash (talk) 03:10, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
In the list of drug songs
editusually songs that begin with "The" would not be alphabetized under "T." So I am inclined to move:
- "The A Team" by Ed Sheeran[19][46]
- "The Free Mexican Airforce" by Peter Rowan
- "The Future" by Prince
- "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five[15]
- "The Needle and the Damage Done" by Neil Young[32]
- "The Needle and the Spoon" by Lynyrd Skynyrd
elsewhere - unless I hear otherwise from you. Carptrash (talk) 04:28, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Differentiation Between Drugs
editI added a big chunk to the end of the first paragraph of this section because I felt that the paragraph ended very abruptly. It cut off with how music is used as a positive outlet in song lyrics and nothing else was said about how this is not a good thing. In order to flow naturally, I made sure to start by adding on a counter-argument to the end of the paragraph that explains how these so called "good drugs" effect people. I felt it was very much so understated that the potential effect this article can have on a teenager or young adult is tremendous. As well as informing the younger generation on the facts about drug mentions in music, it can impact them to not let music influence them as well. The author of this section seemed to be rushing to get the information down without paying closer attention to information necessary for completing the section. Prestonw21 (talk) 02:32, 27 March 2019 (UTC)prestonw21Prestonw21 (talk) 02:32, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
A lot of what was left on the sandbox is opinionated however Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral and not promote any opinions so be sure to fix thoseDtamilmani1 (talk) 04:51, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
How music genres and particular drugs associate with each other
editI felt that there needed to be an extension on the topic of how different genres of music affiliate themselves with a particular type of drug. Therefor in the differentiation between drugs section, I added a small paragraph pertaining to marijuana and the genres who reference this substance in their music. Further in the paragraph, I expand on how bluegrass and swing artists began to use cannabis slurs within their lyrics. This improved the flow of the section and helps transition from the first paragraph into the third.. Along with this small insertion, I edited the pre existing paragraphs to act as if this section had been written by one editor. Nonetheless, I feel that these edits improve the article by further explaining that certain genres affiliate themselves with different illegal substances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colewilschetz (talk • contribs) 03:10, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Thoughts on converting "#Partial_list_of_songs_referencing_drug_use" to a table?
editI believe the information in #Partial list of songs referencing drug use will be better read — and sortable — if it was in a table format. Thoughts?Noaaah (talk) 04:44, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
NPOV
editThe tendency in this article is anti-'drugs'. Not to sound like Bill Hicks, however why is there no explanation of:
- why artists or audiences use drugs
- which drugs influenced which musical styles, and
- how changes in drugs led to changes in musical styles
"For centuries, musicians have used drugs to enhance creativity and listeners have used drugs to heighten the pleasure created by music." - Source: Why do drugs and music so often go together? Science is looking for an answer, by Ian Hamilton and Suzi Gage, The Conversation. Also see: Waiting For The Man: The Story of Drugs and Popular Music, by Harry Shapiro. 2001:1C00:1E20:D900:ACD3:2270:8C88:3D0A (talk) 23:04, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Day Tripper
editDefinitely a mistake to categorize “Day Tripper” as a drug song. It’s about a woman who will date the narrator but won’t sleep with him—-the metaphor is that she only takes day trips, rather than overnight vacations. But “trips” here really just refers to travel. Yes the Beatles took acid, but they were also people of their era and sometimes used language in a straight way. 2601:86:0:B6A0:F08A:7B25:E9FD:8B28 (talk) 13:52, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
Unfounded Assertions
edit"Results showed that, "Listening to rap music [is] significantly and positively associated with alcohol use, problematic alcohol use, illicit drug use, and aggressive behaviors...".[43] Additionally, "alcohol and illicit drug use were positively associated with listening to musical genres of techno and reggae".[43]"
Is drinking beer and whiskey "positively associated" with listening to country music? How about: people take the drug of their choice, and then listen to the music of their choice? Does any drug in particular stand out in this list? Spotify Country Songs That Reference Drugs. Or check out The Outlaws' Green Grass And High Tides. 2001:1C00:1E20:D900:756F:C233:A164:8760 (talk) 20:48, 9 October 2024 (UTC)