Talk:Drinking the Kool-Aid
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A better explanation.
editThe following site has a much more accurate description of the origins of the phrase. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DrinkingTheKoolAid — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.120.93 (talk) 17:25, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- TV Tropes is not a reliable source as it allows user-generated content. Please read our guidelines on what is and is not a reliable source. Feinoha Talk 17:29, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
You don't get it. The description I linked to was, objectively, infinitely more accurate than this silly wikipedia article that seems like it was written by school children. If you prefer to have a stupid article rather than an accurate one, that's your problem. When provided with superior information, you should not cling to the existing shabby article as if protecting something vulnerable and sickly, but investigate the superior information and find some "reliable sources" that back up the facts. If you put up an article saying that the sky is yellow with black polka dots, and someone provides a link to "the sky is blue", you shouldn't dismiss it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.120.93 (talk) 09:25, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- I've added citable (acceptable) Wikipedia sources that not only lay out in detail what happened in Jonestown (many to most of whose deaths were not voluntary in the spirit of the use of this phrase), but also what both Kool-Aid and Flavor-Aid said in statements in 1978 after Jonestown. I've also integrated the statement that the phrase is offensive to victims to the opening. Citations from direct or indirect victims of Jonestown stating that they have a problem with the use of the phrase "drinking the Kool-Aid" are not difficult to find today. Skybunny (talk) 07:20, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
"Guards armed with guns and crossbows had been ordered to shoot those who fled the Jonestown pavilion as Jones lobbied for suicide" Lobby for is used incorrectly or even misleadingly here. It always includes the element of petition to higher authority — that's the reason we use it instead of other verbs — and Jones himself was the highest authority in the community. It would be more correct to use a phrase like "urged his followers to suicide"[noun] or "urged the faithful to suicide."99.93.9.16 (talk) 17:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
“spoke of finding packets of "cool aid" (sic)”
editThe pronunciation is the same, so how would anyone know if they were saying Kool-Aid or cool aid? 82.36.70.45 (talk) 16:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)