Talk:Dream a Little Dream of Me/Archive 1
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Milton Adolphus attribution
An edit to this page has made the claim that Milton Adolphus is the actual author of this work and that Fabian Andre and Wilbur Schwandt are erroneously credited. This claim lacks attribution.
The following pages support Fabian Andre and Wilbur Schwandt:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=33:kcfpxxrkldfe http://books.google.com/books?id=_48YAAAAIAAJ&q=%22fabian+andre%22&dq=%22fabian+andre%22&pgis=1 http://books.google.com/books?id=j0KWba_KFi0C&q=%22fabian+andre%22&dq=%22fabian+andre%22&pgis=1 http://books.google.com/books?id=A_xtSKdVGpQC&pg=PA580&ots=cP-eDO8avY&dq=%22fabian+andre%22&sig=KVNUMnVUDpMrcnyL6d435L9BxqY http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/vote/100list.html#D
Resolution of this issue (by means of proper attribution) is requested.
Mrpaulin (talk) 10:01, 22 December 2012 (UTC) The following rights agencies all attribute the work to ( Fabian André / Gustav Gerson 'Gus' Kahn / Wilbur Schwandt ) : ASCAP Work ID: 340075832 / ISWC: T0700401246 / HFA Song Code: D80161 / APRA: GW01413832 / GEMA: 1024952-001 / U.S. Copyright Office: V3426D714
Large Boat 06:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- The person who seems to be making the claim for Milton Adolphus (on many sites all over the Web) is named David Traver Adolphus. It would appear that he is a relative, perhaps a descendant, of Milton Adolphus. (See [1] for one of his posts.) Obviously he would have his biases, but one perhaps ought to contact him for his justification for his claim. -- BRG 19:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I have seen the sheet music for Dream a little dream of me. Wilbur Schwandt listed on the sheet music for Dream a little dream of me. I am a relitive of Wilbur Schwandt and also have a photo copy of the origonal hand written sheet music for dream a Little Dream of me. One of the neet things I have is a copy of a Photo of Wilbur schwadnt and Lucile Ball from 1957. I can't post it becuase I am not the right's holder to the Picture.
Kevin
- Proscriptus 20: 5 November 2007 (UTC)
We, the descendants of Milton Adolphus, feel our claim is quite reliable. An original score is among his voluminous archives, and we're going through them now to find it; it may also be in the possession of the West Harwich Public Library, to which he left some of his papers. This signed and dated score was seen by many people during his lifetime, dating back to the time of its authorship c. 1930, and when recovered we'll scan it and include it on the Milton Adolphus page. I am, indeed, a descendant, namely, his grandson.
The W.B. Nickerson Cape Cod History Archives (http://www.capecod.edu/web/nickerson/manuscripts) has confirmed they hold a handwritten score for the song, signed Milton Adolphus and dated January 6 1930. A scan provided by the archivist has been uploaded to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Original_score_for_the_song_Dream_a_Little_Dream_of_Me.jpg. Does this merit the inclusion of a 'disputed authorship" section? Proscriptus (talk) 19:48, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Genre
I would like to know under which genre of music, the Mama Cass Elliot rendition of this song would come under, I may guess Blues. Rgp2130 (talk) 12:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC) ~~
- I vote for Pop. Hondo77 (talk) 19:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Many pop groups of the 50's/60's covered "standards" of the 20's,30's and 40's. (ie "Who's Sorry Now", "Summertime"). The Mama Cass version is done in a 20's style (with a tinkling piano) so it could be regarded as a "retro" song. Many orignal songs were written and recorded at that time in a deliberate "old fashion" style ie "Winchester Cathedral" and "When I'm Sixty-Four". Matthew BG 203.171.196.129 (talk) 09:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Copyright?
I see this article quotes the song's full lyrics. Is it public domain? If not, that section is a copyvio and must be deleted. The song was first published in 1932, but I don't have sufficient knowledge of US copyright law to know whether that's good or bad for us. Loganberry (Talk) 00:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
composing copyrights in the usa are for the original composers lifetime plus 50 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.204.5 (talk) 06:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
1st Cover?
The first recording is dated two days after the first cover (February 18, 1931 - February 16, 1931). Is this correct?
Missing information?
I know this song is also performed by Tony Bennett and K. D. Lang - and this cover isn't mentioned in the article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.4.139.242 (talk) 18:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
There is also a cover attributed to Edith Piaf which is not mentioned either. But it doesn't really sound like Piaf. Whose cover would this be? Sly 062 (talk) 06:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Archiving of move request
- I am Boldly creating a section around the following tinted box (and -- i hope not Recklessly -- reformatting, to the extent of changing the level of the embedded section heading, so that this talk page's TOC makes sense again). There, isn't that nicer?
--Jerzy•t 06:37, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Moved to Dream a Little Dream of Me -- Born2cycle (talk) 00:42, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
Dream a Little Dream of Me (song) → Dream a Little Dream of Me — The song is clearly a primary meaning versus a couple of episodes of TV series. The article also resided at the primary location until July this year when it was moved without discussion. — Amakuru (talk) 17:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The song is clearly the primary meaning here. PC78 (talk) 12:14, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
— Preceding undated comment added 00:42, 14 October 2010
Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong
When does the Ella Fitzgerald version date back ? And the version with both Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong ? These two covers are probably the most famous covers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.123.208.240 (talk) 18:55, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Yoplait Yop ad
A colleague (whose English, BTW, is lightyears better than my French) added to the Performances in other media section:
- The version of Mama Cass was in 1990 in France the theme song of the commercial for the velvety smooth yogurt drink Yop from Yoplait.[1]
The wording "velvety smooth" may, i think, be regarded as PoV, nor does even that claim seem to appear in the commercial at that page. I presume the '90 date is personal memory, especially since the linked page says something close to "first publication in May 1989", next to mention of the ad agency. I'm rewording, and also linking to the video on an ini.fr page instead. (The title appears to me to mean "Yoplait Yop:Yogurt in a bottle", but did i mention that my French sucks?) And a more focused Web page is this one.
--Jerzy•t 07:39, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- ^ According to the web site www.Musique de pub.tv, seen the 18 September 2011, "Spot TV pour le produit Yop". www.musiquedepub.tv. Retrieved 18 September 2011.
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