Talk:Douglas fir/Archive 2
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Capitalized common names
I've reverted a change that imposed lower case on a lot of common names on this page. My reasoning is that consistency seems desirable. Common names of birds are always capitalized, as stated at WP:BIRD, and several bird names were involved. For plants, there is currently no consensus, as stated at WP:Plants. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 18:49, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- I strongly support consistency within an article, and the best approach here seems to be to go for capitalized names throughout. But this does mean that "Douglas fir" should everywhere be "Douglas Fir" (although I still think the decision not to use "Douglas-fir" was manifestly wrong). Peter coxhead (talk) 19:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Please read or reread the most relevant section of the MOS. It states that sentence case is to be used except for optional use of title case in articles focused on birds, butterflies/moths or dragonflies/damselflies. In articles not focused on those subjects, the explicit policy is to make every common name sentence case unless a proper noun is involved. This supersedes any local policy that may exist or have existed at WP:Plants. It's true that many articles have not yet been brought into conformity with the current policy; that's what I'm trying to do here. However, plenty of plant articles are consistent with this policy (e.g., Sequoia sempervirens, Sequoiadendron giganteum, etc.). WolfmanSF (talk) 05:31, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Your first round of edits merely left the article with even less consistency, so in my view they were rightly reverted. Now that you have changed all of the common names there is at least consistency. Far too often I see editors making a few random changes to common names, citing MOS:CAPS, but "Use a consistent style of capitalization in each article" applies too. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:26, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Please read or reread the most relevant section of the MOS. It states that sentence case is to be used except for optional use of title case in articles focused on birds, butterflies/moths or dragonflies/damselflies. In articles not focused on those subjects, the explicit policy is to make every common name sentence case unless a proper noun is involved. This supersedes any local policy that may exist or have existed at WP:Plants. It's true that many articles have not yet been brought into conformity with the current policy; that's what I'm trying to do here. However, plenty of plant articles are consistent with this policy (e.g., Sequoia sempervirens, Sequoiadendron giganteum, etc.). WolfmanSF (talk) 05:31, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Gained the Royal Horticultural Society's Award of Garden Merit? Comment
After the sentence "This plant has ornamental value in large parks and gardens, and has gained the Royal Horticultural Society's Award of Garden Merit" there is a link that supposedly is the source for the claim about the award. The link does point on RHS page on Douglas fir, but there is no mention of award, and the tree does not appear on the Search for AGM plants page, אביהו (talk) 09:40, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, this claim does appear to be unsupported by the source given; I've removed it. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:06, 12 September 2015 (UTC)