Talk:Double Dutch (jump rope)

Hip Hop

1. Hip Hop from even its own self described timeline started in the mid-70's. Double Dutch was popular when I was a kid in the 60's and I'm sure even long before that. I would have to agree with the above mentioned statement, but I'm far from an expert on the subject so I'd leave it to others to edit. After watching the movie Jump In with my daughter, we searched the internet to read up on the subject which is how I came here. Mrhyak 00:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty certain that the activity predates Hip-hop by a loooong way (weren't kids were doing it during the war, and before). Is it the name "double dutch" that comes from hip-hop? perfectblue 17:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

From what I have read double dutch pre-dates hip hop but hip hop had something to do with it's push back into pop-culture. As for the name itself it is my understanding that when the English settlers arrived in New Amsterdam (now New York City) they saw the Dutch children playing the game and the English called it "Double Dutch". Checkout www.nationaldoubledutchleague.com/History.htm

As far as I know hip-hop even evolved out of the double dutch scene, thats what we told each other in the 80´s. The (mainly) girls started to sing what the Rappers spoke, and they jumped: hip-hop hip-hop hip-hop... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.23.27 (talk) 21:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Picture

An late-19th Century depiction of Double Dutch

I've removed this picture from the article as there is only one rope in it. Judging from the above discussion, Double Dutch may not date back to the nineteenth century. An actual photo of a modern Double Dutch would be a nice addition to the article. jnestorius^(talk) 14:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Merge: History of Double Dutch

Support. Hyacinth (talk) 20:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

• Support. The article History of Double Dutch would benefit from being placed in context per WP:MERGE. dissolve^talk 20:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and Merged the articles. -Drdisque (talk) 16:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

dear white people

black people ≠ hip hop. yes, there are some elements of black american culture that are different than white american culture, and vice versa, but simply because you've discovered hip hop does not mean that the existence of, and entire cultural experience of, african-decended americans is hip hop. in fact, as of now, the word 'african' isn't even in this entire article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.167.184 (talk) 18:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Interesting theory and ramble. However, as of now and previously, the photographs in the article include various skin shades of people skipping. Although the article itself mentions black and white it does not mention 'caucasian' or 'african'. That may be because it would be wrong to suggest that each black or white person in the USA has only one ethnic ancestry. 74.226.104.234 (talk) 19:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

origin of term "double dutch"

While the WSJ may indeed claim that "some say" that this was brought by Dutch settlers, this is obviously bogus, and is typical urban legend fare. In slang, "dutch" means "trouble" and it's no surprise that a two-jump-rope game would be considered "double trouble" and nicknamed "double dutch". Benwing (talk) 00:30, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

"Dutch" doesn't mean "trouble" in British English, and the Wiktionary link suggests it doesn't mean that in American English either. If it has that meaning in some US urban or ethnic dialects, the article should say so. I'm going to add a citation request. --Ef80 (talk) 23:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt6Co7EMNCU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.231.223.178 (talk) 23:10, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

In British English "double Dutch" means something (often language but no necessarily so) that is very difficult to understand. "Today's presentation on quantum physics was all double Dutch to me." So as something really confusing, this skipping style might be appropriately named "Double Dutch" merely according to the dictionary definition, e.g. [1]. It is the same word phrase so I am not sure if positing a link would be considered original research or not. --Timtak (talk) 11:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

We really need something that tells us what came from what. Jumping is third on the wiktionary list, but not much to go on. Student7 (talk) 20:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Malcolm McLaren song

Maybe the 1980s song should be mentioned in the cultural references section, someone who knows details about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.13.68.171 (talk) 18:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree.--Timtak (talk) 11:34, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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Gryphon Song?

Cleaning up some citations. I listened to their song and it's an instrumental. Is there any reason to think, other than the title, that it's related to the jump rope game? Let me know if so. Here's the text I removed "The 1974 album Midnight Mushrumps by the British progressive rock band Gryphon features a track named Dubbel (dutch for Double) Dutch."