Talk:Doria (family)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by MarioJump83 in topic Requested move 20 January 2021

Superfluous (and highly subjective) personal information edit

The part about the living family memebers has to be cleaned up ASAP.

Requested move 20 January 2021 edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Based on the strength of oppose arguments and no support arguments. (closed by non-admin page mover) MarioJump83! 10:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)Reply



– Almost all search results lead to this family or their members. Move current "Doria" to a disambiguation page, same format as in the Italian Wiki mirror page. Gryffindor (talk) 09:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Note: Doria titles a dab page with significant content and so is ineligible as a new target title unless it is also proposed to be renamed. This request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 00:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose per "Doria was" test In ictu oculi (talk) 18:03, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. This is definitely a sensible proposal, and looking at the contents of the dab page it does look as though the family is the most prominent of the entries. However, that's not what readers are looking for:
Data
Source Destination type Referrals
Doria João_Doria link 20
Doria Dorian other 12
Doria Dória link 40
Doria Doria_(family) link 47
Doria Yōshoku link 572
Doria Italian_ship_Andrea_Doria link 15

This is from clickstream data for November. It includes all source-destination pairs with 10 or more hits for the month. The pageviews for the dab page alone for the same period are at [1].

For the month of November, over 500 visitors of the dab page clicked on Doria (food) (which redirects to a mention within Yōshoku). That's about half of all visitors of the dab page, and more than ten times the number who followed the link to Doria (family). – Uanfala (talk) 17:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Just fyi: page views seem to support your first claim; however, they don't appear to support that the number of readers who visited the food link was ten times the number who visited the family link within the last 90 days, to include November. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 20:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
The information for how many readers have followed each link on the dab page is directly available from the clickstream dataset I've linked above (you can see the recent RM at Talk:Kilburn, London for how that works). They're not contradicted by the pageviews in your link (maybe I need to clarify that the table above gives the numbers for the whole month?). Generally, pageviews allow only limited, indirect, inferences about usage – this is because only a small fraction of the total traffic for a title comes from the dab page (Wikipedia:Pageviews and primary topics has some info about that). – Uanfala (talk) 21:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Clickstream's a bit too "clunky" for my taste. Good analysis overall, though! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 08:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

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