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First half of the video
editA fan site (randomly chosen) says "The most common belief regarding this short video is the idea that the film's a metaphor for the media conditioning children into thinking a certain way. This belief is expressed through the character of the Sketchbook. Throughout the [first half of the] video, the Sketchbook would teach the three puppets what she thought being creative was and would always be quick to chastise them whenever they went against her teachings."
Somewhere Pelling says something about this....in an interview, wonder if I can find it.
The article as it is describes the first half almost approvingly of the sketchbook, as " a lesson about creativity taught by a sketchbook puppet to puppet students."
Another issue is that the authors of the video are British, and the video is similar to BBC educational programming for children, not so similar to Sesame Street. That is, the existing article seems to have a USA perspective. Createangelos (talk) 00:43, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Request to semi-Protect
editHello, I am SirLagsalott, one of this page's contributors. I'm writing this because there is almost always persistent vandalism on this page, most of which I was able to clean up but then it was added back by various unregistered users. Please semi-protect this page to prevent these users from destroying the page further. SirLagsalott (talk) 15:42, 11 April 2015 (UTC)SirLagsalott
- Talk to an admin if you want it to be semi protected Hollth (talk) 02:45, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Original Research
editIt's already been flagged as having this, and I've tried to remove some content I'm pretty sure is original. I'm a bit wary of the overview section too to be honest - I don't really have time to go through it though. Slight concern is that a lot of the citations just refer back to their own website + that of their agent - are these really notable? Doom halo (talk) 16:42, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2015
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In DHMIS 5, Red Guy actually makes multiple cameos throughout the video. 99.237.154.147 (talk) 00:43, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. /wia🎄/tlk 03:00, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Theme of E5
editThere seems to be a dispute between what the theme of Episode 5 is. It was initially Nutrition, but it's since been changed to Eating, Healthy Eating and Health. I think that Healthy Eating is the correct theme because the teacher(s) are signing specifically about how Duck and Yellow can eat healthily. They're not signing about general food or how to be healthy in general. --Iamoctopus (talk) 19:29, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Iamoctopus: I'm gonna bold change it to 'Healthy Eating' - it's much harder to argue it's just 'Health' given the episode is about food. It's obviously not just eating, and while nutrition seems okay the emphasis is on 'health' throughout the lesson. Seems reasonable enough to change it to 'Healthy Eating' in my eyes. -NottNott|talk 23:10, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Why are we trying to give the episodes names that aren't official anyway? We should either use the numbers or official names supported by suitable sources. Giving them names that attempt to summarise the theme of episodes that are widely debated and unofficial would be like wikipedia pages entitled 'Hamlet: Loss' or 'Macbeth: Ambition'. Dubbinu | t | c 15:57, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of removing all episode subtitles. The only one we know for sure is episode 2 (TIME), but to include that and exclude others is anachronistic. One could argue from the title sequence that the subtitle for the first episode is "Great Creative", but I don't see that anywhere. Anyway, the episode descriptions already have the themes so I don't think it's necessary. FallingGravity (talk) 06:12, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Why are we trying to give the episodes names that aren't official anyway? We should either use the numbers or official names supported by suitable sources. Giving them names that attempt to summarise the theme of episodes that are widely debated and unofficial would be like wikipedia pages entitled 'Hamlet: Loss' or 'Macbeth: Ambition'. Dubbinu | t | c 15:57, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
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Duck guy = Duck, and steak = lamb chop?
editRef 19, an 'interview' with the 3 main characters, appears to confirm that 'Steak' is a lamb chop and that 'Duck Guy' ought to be called 'Duck'. However it's not clear whether this ref is suitably reliable. Thoughts? Dubbinu | t | c 08:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- Well, we're not sure whether the steak being a lamp chop is just made up by the author of the article or actually confirmed by the creators. Guysayshi (talk) 13:41, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Lets talk
editI would like to know why my edits are being reverted. Is wikipedia scared of detail or not, it is true that Tony denies responsibility over the rotting. --2.123.238.140 (talk) 10:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
- Please see WP:OR and WP:FAN. Adog104 Talk to me 13:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Episode Guide
editThis is a blatantly excessive amount of in-universe details, for what are 5-minute long Youtube video clips. Power~enwiki (talk) 01:56, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, so you feel it is 'blatantly excessive' but that doesn't mean we should just delete everything. If you feel the plot descriptions should be shortened, then shorten them. I'll try and get to this later if you don't feel like doing the work. There's no deadline here. Valeince (talk) 18:06, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
What’s the Steak’s name?
editI’ve heard so many people just call him ‘Steak Guy’ but many others say ‘he has no name’ or is just called ‘Steak’. May someone please explain this to me because I wish to know. If it is Steak Guy, I’m editing his description in ‘Characters’. Šüīçįdåł Śøñgbìrd (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Šüīçįdåł Śøñgbìrd: A lot of fan websites go by 'Steak guy', but since there is no official source for this (unlike other characters like yellow guy, referenced all over the Kickstarter) we can't really give him any other title than 'Steak'. -NottNott 17:07, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
What about Episode 7?
editThere’s a seventh episode of Don’t Hug Me. I’m Scared, which isn’t really relevant to earlier episodes, but I still feel we should include in the Episodes category, but maybe not Characters. What do you think? Šüīçįdåł Śøñgbìrd (talk) 17:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Šüīçįdåł Śøñgbìrd: It's named as DHMIS 7 as a joke, with none of the same characters. I propose that there's a new level 3 heading under 'Plot' after Episode 6 that talks about the kickstarter campaign shorts and this joke of an episode 7. -NottNott 12:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Duck Guy or just Duck?
editI've been watching these recently. When other people reference the main characters, they're referred to as Red Guy, Yellow Guy, and Duck. Is it Duck or Duck Guy? It seems to be pretty mixed on this, and I'm just checking to make sure. Le Panini (talk) 02:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
According to the C4 episode descriptions, it’s Yellow Guy, Red Guy, and Duck. Writing froggy (talk) 23:50, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Plot summaries
edit@Eik Corell: I disagree with the removal of plot summaries. Almost all articles about tv shows have them, even without sources. There's nothing wrong with the text that was introduced and I find plot summaries quite useful. Please reconsider. - Daveout
(talk) 04:29, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, most shows have them, but the problem here is that this show really does not have much of a plot at all, and the episode summaries reflect this in that they delve into needless listing of details and event-by-event retelling of the episodes, i.e text X appears, character Y says Z, if you look closely at X time, Y can be seen, etc. The more general plot section is the happy medium here that avoids all of these problems, while still conveying the overall theme in a much more appropriate way. Eik Corell (talk) 12:28, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- The lack of linearity in the plot is a characteristic of the surreal genre. Doesn't make sense to ask the summaries to have something the episodes don't have. (see for example David Lynch's Eraserhead; Jodorowsky's The Holy Mountain (1973 film)). -
Daveout
(talk) 15:26, 29 June 2021 (UTC)- I don't know, those two plot sections, even if non-linear to some degree, still seem to describe something much more cohesive, or do so in a better way. At the risk of repeating myself a little, the sections here, drawing on the Episode 3: Love are mostly retellings, which, as I mentioned, makes sense in a way if you want to stretch out something that really is quite thin as far as plot or meaning goes. For example, that one puppet says "pesky bee", that the puppet repeats this later in the episode, or that another puppet says "father" before being crushed. A lot of these details listed, I would imagine, is simply fluff -- filler which may or may not have any real meaning or overall significance to the plot, so providing a concise plot summary is not really possible on such a per-episode basis because it can only be done through this scattershot, mention-everything kind of way, whereas the general plot section does so much more elegantly in a broader, more accessible way by looking at all the episodes as a whole. The way I see it, the episodes exist on a continuum -- Given how short they are and how they exist almost separately from each other apart from the episodes progressive falling apart so to speak, when you describe them individually, and in the amount of detail done in the linked example, you actually end up conveying less. In a way, brevity is lost. Eik Corell (talk) 23:39, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- The lack of linearity in the plot is a characteristic of the surreal genre. Doesn't make sense to ask the summaries to have something the episodes don't have. (see for example David Lynch's Eraserhead; Jodorowsky's The Holy Mountain (1973 film)). -
Genre
editPlease note MOS:TVGENRE and Template:Infobox television: "Genres must be reliably sourced."
An anon IPv6 editor has spammed various articles including this one and added many genres. These should be trimmed back to only the primary genre/genres that are supported by reliable sources. -- 109.76.203.218 (talk) 20:51, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- I have trimmed back some of the bloat,[1] but fully expect it will need to be reduced again because some editors don't get that listing every possible genre instead of the main genre/genres makes the page less useful to readers. -- 109.76.203.218 (talk) 21:11, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
People are still edit warring over this genre spam? It still is not reliably sourced (not essential, ideally it would be) but it seems to have at least stabilized.[2] -- 109.79.66.13 (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Change summaries?
editThe current episode summaries for the original series, Wakey Wakey, and the new TV series seem more like blurbs than actual summaries. Should we change the current ones to ones that describe the plots/songs of the episodes rather than teasers? Writing froggy (talk) 22:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
2 series instead of 1
editAs the article is about both the webseries and the Channel 4 series, shouldn't it say that the 'franchise' consists of 2 series.
If you consider both to be part of the same show then it should say there are two seasons (or series). And if you consider them separate shows, then It should also say it has two series, since the article talks about both shows. Daniakec (talk) 19:49, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Daniakec: i've made the change. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 08:15, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Food episode
editThere is no cannibalism in this episode, as they are all different species. Please remove this link. 78.148.55.12 (talk) 17:59, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
TV series cast and reception
editI personally feel like the cast for the TV series and reception for the TV series should be solely in the page about the TV series, since this page mostly talks about the web series and the pilot. 24.44.76.188 (talk) 15:41, 8 September 2023 (UTC)