Talk:Domestic violence in India
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wrong citation?
editThe Domestic Violence Act of 2005 provides victims of abuse with a means for practical remedy, but has been reportedly used against men.
In the citation it says "has not been used against men". It would be better, to cite the whole text of the ref in the text. --Hans Eo (talk) 14:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing it out to me. I'll have a look and fix it soon. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- I've
commented outmoved that ref and put in a new ref for now. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- I've
Additions to article
editMy name is Reilly Solis and I'm a student at Rice University planning to revise and add sections to this article as part of a Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities class assignment. As gender violence has become one of the world’s most common human rights abuses – and as India has become one of the most visible countries in the world for such abuses – I believe that improving upon the existing Domestic Violence in India Wikipedia page is both justified and necessary. An important aspect of my revision to the existing article, just to predicate my revisions, will be focusing on differences in domestic violence across regions (for example, Kerala is a much more progressive state with significantly lower rates of domestic violence than most northern states such as Uttar Pradesh), religions, culture, caste, education attainment level and socioeconomic status. My revisions to this article would focus on and somewhat combine the subcategories of violence (physical and emotional) against women and sexual harassment, as these are important aspects of domestic violence that certainly deserve more attention than the existing article on such an issue. Additionally, issues of domestic violence itself (including differences across several regional, cultural, social, and economic backgrounds) warrant greater attention as an important facet of sexism and gender discrimination in a country with 17% of the world’s population. I plan to first and foremost provide a more comprehensive picture of the history of domestic violence in India in the context of more general gender discrimination, as well as resulting effects on women’s agency and health throughout the country. I would also, as mentioned earlier, place high importance on addressing differences throughout the country in types and rates of domestic violence, which existing articles on the issue fail to do. After all, India is an incredibly diverse nation with important differences between regions, cultures, religions, and socioeconomic statuses. Another way I’d improve upon the Domestic Violence in India article to bring it to an improved status would be to provide a much more comprehensive overview of efforts to realistically combat domestic violence in India from an unbiased point of view. These efforts include social movements, legislation and actions from NGOs. I believe their inclusion would definitely add much more substance to the article. An important part of this – as well as of all parts of my revisions and contributions – is the fact that my work must be unbiased. This is certainly a controversial subject even among women in India, as according to a recent report by Unicef found that about 50% of Indian women believe that wife beating is justified. It was also found that girls between the ages of 15-19 generally held the same views as women in the 45-49 age group, a particularly disturbing statistic that demonstrates the need for change in a country where the prevalence of domestic violence seems to be perpetual and its continuance indefinite. To reiterate, though, my work must be unbiased. I will approach the article in an objective, comprehensive manner that, coupled obviously with substantive information on the various aspects of and differences in domestic violence throughout India, will hopefully raise the article up from but a Start-Class Wikipedia article to at least a C- or B-Class, Good, or Featured one. One of the most effective ways to confront an issue such as domestic violence (in this case, in India) is to simply provide information the public with comprehensive, sufficiently detailed information on the issue. This, simply put, is what I hope to do.
Suggestion to Rename
editDomestic Violence as a title is suited for a gender neutral article, for an overtly gender sensitive study and articulation, it is appropriate to rename this article as Violence against Women in India. Abhijith Jayanthi
- I agree, this article ignores any domestic violence against men and makes no mention of it, to call it a domestic violence article if it only talks about half of the victims would make it a rubbish article under this name, I hope that it will be renamed. --86.81.201.94 (talk) 19:08, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Comments
editI am going to review this article outside the GA process for further improvement.
- National Crime Records Bureau reveal that a crime against a woman is committed every three minutes, a woman is raped every 29 minutes, a dowry death occurs every 77 minutes and one case of cruelty committed by either the husband or relative of the victim occurs every nine minutes. Which year data?? The source is of 2006, in all probability it will be of 2004/05. Try adding more fresh data, the NCRB takes out report each year and the data is readily available on net.
- According to a study by the National Center for Biotechnology Information, suicide attempts in India are correlated with physical and psychological intimate partner violence. Of the Indian women who participated in the study, 7.5% reported attempting suicide. Mention the year of the report and give proper pinpoint citation if possible.
- Sexual assault - You may add a line or two related to Marital rape in India, which is not regarded as an offence per se in India.
- Kerala maintains very high relative levels of female literacy and women’s health, as well as greater female inheritance and property rights. Citation needed
- Differences - While limiting yourself to two states might be a good decision. If you have data related to other states, kindly add it in a table form for a comprehensive coverage. Have a look at National Family Health Survey Report 2005-06. The National Family Health Survey III (2005-06) data indicated that in the age group of 15-49, 35.4% of women experienced physical or sexual forms of domestic violence.
- Effects - One or two line short paragraphs/sections are generally not encouraged. It will be better to merge them into one section.
- Efforts - Add number of cases registered in India under this Act, if data is available. For your help take a look at this http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/1787065/report-domestic-violence-cases-up-by-11pct
- The study cites the need for more systematic and thorough record keeping throughout all levels of the Indian court system, as well as the imperative need for more clarity in current legislation that provides a very unclear definition of what domestic violence even is. The study was of 2000, while the new Act enacted in 2005 clearly defines what domestic violence is. Remove the ambiguity. Further it is advised to give more recent data on prosecution, registration, etc. Hint: search NCRB site. Amartyabag TALK2ME 15:19, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- Further improvement must be made in terms of consistent, properly formatted citations. Pinpoint citations are encouraged for better credibility. Amartyabag TALK2ME 15:23, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Reillysolis, I first off want to say that I really enjoyed reading this article. You added a large amount of content, supported it with many different scholarly studies and surveys, and communicated it all in a way that was very readable and accessible. Readability is definitely a strength of this article. The dowry subheading, for example, was particularly well-supported, readable, and memorable. My main suggestion for improvement would be to really connect domestic violence to India instead of just domestic violence in general. There were some headings, such as "forms of domestic violence" and "effects" that seemed to focus more on domestic violence in general than as it specifically related to India; while it is good to give readers some background on domestic violence so they don't have to go to the main page, make sure it's really connected to the article by specifying India. The subheadings "emotional abuse" and "sexual abuse" both had stats specific to India, but the "physical abuse" subheading did not; adding content to this heading and expanding upon the other would be really useful. Additionally, I really liked how you discussed the differences between Kerala and Uttar Pradesh, and think it would be really valuable to expand on these. Why are they different? Is it a result of social norms, legislation, or advocacy campaigns, or a combination thereof? Even though it happens less, what does domestic violence look like in Kerala? What kinds of measures are being taken to combat domestic violence in Uttar Pradesh, and why has it been less successful than in the south? Finally, if you're looking to add more content, two places I would really have appreciated seeing more information, and that I think would be really relevant, would be discussions of caste and the legal system. The caste system is a structure prevalent in India that relates to socioeconomic class, education level, social capital, etc, and I think it would be really interesting to see (if you can find research on it) how caste affects domestic violence. How does the caste you are in affect the abuse you suffer, ie more physical or more emotional? It's something that would differentiate how domestic violence is experienced in India from the experience in other countries or worldwide. Same thing for the legal framework; you mention the Domestic Violence Act of 2005, but what kinds of legislation was there before? What was the impetus for this act? Any other legislation? What are the shortcomings of this legislation, what provisions still need to be made to ensure enforcement, etc? Other than that, it looks really good, nice work! Rachel.m.mitchell (talk) 04:21, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
GA nom
editI just noticed that this article has been nominated for a GA. I'd be glad to help out if refs are needed as I have access to Credo and Questia. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- This is part of a education program of Rice University, whose final submission date is 12 April. As a courtesy we must wait till that day for improvements. May be the contributor is working on it offline, as I have seen that the material is posted at a time. However, you might consider formatting the citations properly using citation templates in meanwhile. Amartyabag TALK2ME 04:59, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- SO I can't 'brush it up'? Copy editing included? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- Essential copyediting won't harm, but I think as an courtesy we must wait for few more days (say till 15 April) for text improvement. I guess, the main contributor is not much aware of Wikiformatting and guidelines, as there was very little wikilinks before I added some. The GA nom seems too early for me, as major work it terms of citations need to be done. Some other concerns and suggestion have come up in terms of improving the article. Lets see how the contributor acts. Keep it in your watchlist and don't forget to return back after a week. Amartyabag TALK2ME 13:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah sure. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:01, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Essential copyediting won't harm, but I think as an courtesy we must wait for few more days (say till 15 April) for text improvement. I guess, the main contributor is not much aware of Wikiformatting and guidelines, as there was very little wikilinks before I added some. The GA nom seems too early for me, as major work it terms of citations need to be done. Some other concerns and suggestion have come up in terms of improving the article. Lets see how the contributor acts. Keep it in your watchlist and don't forget to return back after a week. Amartyabag TALK2ME 13:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- SO I can't 'brush it up'? Copy editing included? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Peer Review
editI think this is a very important article and you have expanded it really well. I noticed that you have nominated your article for GA status so I just want to provide some comments and suggestions to help you move your article towards GA.
First, there are quite a few major claims that are not cited, so perhaps you might want to review your article to cite all of them. One example is “Domestic violence, or Intimate Partner Violence (IPV) as it is sometimes called, is a worldwide problem that occurs quite often.” Statements like this definitely need to be cited. Also, you need to make sure you maintain the tone of Wikipedia. For example, I might suggest that the aforementioned sentence be written as “Domestic Violence, or Intimate Partner Violence (IPV), has been widely regarded as a worldwide problem [insert citation]” Do check for this type of writing in other parts of the article to keep an encyclopedia-like tone.
Finally, you can definitely add more links to other articles within the text. Some of the sections in the article have zero in-text links. Add more links! :)
On the structure of your article, I really like how you listed the forms of domestic violence. However, a good amount of the information is not India-specific. That said, it would be better to shift all the material that is just broadly describing domestic violence into the background. You can create more subsections in the background if you want. With the remaining information that is India-specific, you can then retitle “Forms of domestic violence” to “Forms of violence experienced by Indian women,” or something like that. With regards to the differences throughout India, I get what you are trying to say, but I would instead retitle it to “differences in prevalence” and then create a subsection titled “North vs South” or something along those lines. Doing it like this shows that you are trying to inform the reader that the rates and frequency of domestic violence vary between north and south. This way, you can add that there are differences in terms of rural/urban, socioeconomic status, caste, etc.
Moving on to factors, you have an empty section [Cultural Practice] that you have to add material to. I have added a “this section is empty” box to it so maybe other people can help you too. In terms of cultural practice, I would retitle “patriarchal structure” to just “patriarchy.” Considering how huge a factor patriarchy is to domestic violence in India, you probably need to expand on that section. Presently you only have information from one source (although it is a huge area of discourse and discussion). The section “Hesitancy to report cases of domestic violence,” is actually part of social oppression from patriarchy. You might want to consider shifting this section into patriarchy. Often times, patriarchal social processes and norms deter women from reporting cases due to social stigma and domestic and economic repercussions.
On health, I recommend you condense the non-fatal outcomes with fatal outcomes and just have a section titled “health outcomes.” This is because you just list health outcomes and fatal outcomes only has one sentence on it. Perhaps you can expand more on this area to make it more than just listing injuries – maybe you can cite some studies from journal articles or reports?
On the “Efforts to combat domestic violence in India,” you have another empty section “Policy.” To be GA, all sections must be filled up! All in all, I think you have done a great job with this article, although the article definitely needs working on in order to make it GA. Hope my suggestions and feedback help a little!
Cheers
benongyx (talk) 13:50, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Response to Feedback
editThanks for the feedback everyone! Very good points on certain aspects that are clearly missing and some sections that could be expanded upon, better cited, or even added. Here are some of the strategies I plan to pursue to improve the article in the coming week or so based on your suggestions: 1. Improve citing throughout article. Make sure to maintain an "encyclopedic tone" along with correct citations. 2. Add substance under sections Cultural Practice and Policy. These sections could greatly benefit from an introduction paragraph laying out what I'll be discussing in the subsections. 3. Add section discussing caste system. Seeing as the article is dealing with domestic violence specifically in India, the caste system is obviously a huge part of the social structure and therefore seems to warrant a section to itself (probably under Cultural Practice). 4. Expand legal discussion under Policy. Talk about policy itself (perhaps regional differences as well) and talk more about the court structure within India in the context of prosecuting domestic violence offenders. 5. Provide more comprehensive overview of regional differences. Also discuss different policies and social norms in the North and South that provide social structures that are either conducive or non-conducive to preventing domestic violence. I will continue to work on these suggested improvements throughout the week. Thanks again for the input and I look forward to further increasing the quality of this article, as I believe the subject is one of great importance! Reillysolis (talk) 04:34, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- I am looking forward for a well researched article from you. Please keep in mind, be specific to the topic and don't add general statements. While a synthesis that "court proceedings in India continues for long" is equally applicable on domestic violence cases, might not be irrelevant. But a detailed discussion related to the Court structures in India is unnecessary. You may just add a sentence or two on that. Amartyabag TALK2ME 03:13, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Piotrus (talk · contribs) 13:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- A. Prose: 1) some unnecessary constructions, like "as it is sometimes called". 2) Weasel: "it has been argued" - by whom? 3) Insufficient ilinking (WP:BTW). From first para: no links to notable concepts Domestic violence. 4) "a 1995-1996 PubMed study" - don't cite publisher, cite the author. B. MoS issues with lead - it does not summarize the article properly, it introduces new information not repeated in text, and is too short. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:40, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- Some refs are not properly formatted, please use cite templates. Ex. "Domestic violence plagues women worldwide, study says - SFGate" - missing everything but the title. Several clearly newspaper articles are not linked, despite the fact that almost certainly they are online. Improper capitalization of THE CRIMINAL LAW (AMENDMENT) BILL. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:40, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- 1) Background section is grossly insufficient: it consists of a general remark that this is a worldwide problem, and a note about a 2010 movie of little relevance. 2) A few sections discuss domestic violence in general, rather than in India, for example "Background" and "Physical violence" sections seemingly have nothing to do with India. 3) The article focuses on women; despite the fact that abuse of children and elderly is a major part of domestic abuse, too. A para about abuse of males would also be helpful. 4) Focus is problematic. Background section is about nothing specific; "According to Unicef's Global Report Card on Adolescents 2012, 57% of boys and 53% of girls in India think a husband is justified in hitting or beating his wife" sentence in factors is seemingly random. 4) Missing section on history (has the domestic violence and attitude toward it changed?). 5) Regional differences are discussed, but how about differences by age cohort, education, socioeconomic status, caste, religion...? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:40, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
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- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- No images at all. If no photographs can be obtained, some graphs or maps should be possible create. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:40, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall: On hold. Seems to require some substantial expansion before being comprehensive. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:40, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
- Failing due to no response. I am finding those student GA "we will stop caring as soon as the course ends" increasingly irritating. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:54, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
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- I had great hopes for this article when I created it. Unfortunately, its inclusion in a useless Education Project ruined everything, as always. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 04:51, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Bias
editWhen I had created this article. it also included a section on Domestic violence against men; which is prevalent. However, I now see that the article has been completely rewritten removing that section.--Rsrikanth05 (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Interesting as we have seen the same problem on the general Domestic Violence page. Nearly all reference to violence against men has been removed and several 'gate-keepers' are preventing such references being added. (my addition of official data was reverted within 12 hrs). Is there a section of the Wikipedia community determined to hide abuse of men by women? What is their aim? The Equalogist (talk) 08:54, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Inaccurate report on what has been going on there. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 06:04, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Image Remove
edit2012 Crime Rate against Women per 100000 in India by its States and Union Territories, VAW Map Image show wrong information (uttar pradesh 3rd highest no. in crimes against women).Data Source: Crime in India 2012 Statistics, National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), Ministry of Home Affairs, Govt of India, Table 5.1, page 385. --Bongan (talk) 10:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Change
editI added a reference and an example to show how the issue effects different portions of the population based on their race, class, or caste. Further development of this section would be good because it could help direct attention to the most vulnerable communities in India. Slklose (talk) 19:38, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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Possible typo?
editIn this section it may be that the word 'perpetrators' should be replaced by 'victims'? The paragraph seems to refer the percentage of victims for the two genders. Gender
Babu et al. surveyed both genders on domestic violence in eastern region of India.[46] The results show that 16% of women had reported experiencing physical forms of domestic violence, 25% sexual form, 52% psychological, and 56% reported any form of domestic violence.[46] Men reported being perpetrators of domestic violence with 22% reporting some form of physical domestic abuse, 17% sexual, 59% psychological, and 59.5% any form of domestic abuse. The Equalogist (talk) 08:39, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Exactly why do you think the material is a typo? We have the victims, and then we have the perpetrators. The wording does seem like it needs tweaking, but how does it make sense for percentages to be higher for men as victims than for women as victims? The "with 22% reporting some form of physical domestic abuse, 17% sexual, 59% psychological, and 59.5% any form of domestic abuse" piece seems to be reporting what the men did as perpetrators. After all, the section also states, "The perpetrator of domestic violence, physical or sexual or psychological, was typically the husband in majority of cases." But I need to read the source. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 06:04, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Thomson Reuters foundation report?
editShouldn't the Thomson Reuters foundations report of most dangerous countries for women 2018 be added ?
http://poll2018.trust.org Qasee1230 (talk) 01:05, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Domestic abuse ?
editAs the article progresses to other forms of abuse, including emotional, sexual, and other forms not mentioned.
One should see that this particular approach to spousal abuse, is biased and one side, and could be improved by extending the reality of abuse to both sexes ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.147.13 (talk) 23:51, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
The Thomson Reuters survey in the lead
editShould this be considered a reliable source, given that it is a very bold claim based solely on a survey of "expert" opinions? The sentence does not make it clear that it is not based on any hard data, I changed it a little bit. Also maybe it should be moved away from the lead.
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Plans to Edit This Topic
editAlthough the information under this stub is relevant and correct, it is very limited and lacks a more ‘in depth’ analysis/research surrounding honor killings, specifically in India. The current material displays a Supreme Court Case ruling from 2010, which was almost fourteen years ago. I would like to research any recent Indian Supreme Court Cases, and add any new and updated/available information to this stub. Goose0919 (talk) 03:15, 15 September 2023 (UTC)