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Heading just to put this under the TOC
editIt appears that the coin might replace the $1 bill almost completely that soon the $1 bill might get out of circulation. As a result of this combined with the fact that Alexander Hamilton is no longer as well-remembered as he was back in 1928, the year that follows whatever year this happens (I believe it might be sometime around 2020) might be a time to change the portraits on the bills as follows:
The $2 bill changes from Thomas Jefferson to George Washington
The $5 bill changes from Abraham Lincoln to Thomas Jefferson
The $10 bill changes from Alexander Hamilton to Abraham Lincoln
The $20, $50, and $100 bills, however, will not change portraits.
What are your votes??
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.84.47 (talk) 17:38, 26 February 2004 (UTC)
- Washington on the dollar coin and the $5 bill (thus, keeping the pattern of Washington on the highest generally circulating coin and the smallest generally circulating bill). Lincoln bumped up to the $10 and the quarter (dropping the penny), Hamilton bumped up to the $20 (or Lincoln bumped up to the $20, Hamilton staying on the $10). The $50 and $100 stay the same. Another idea - Washington on the $20 bill, Lincoln on the $1 coin, again, killing the penny Nik42 06:27, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, and while we're at it, let's add a $500 bill. And make our bills prettier Nik42 06:29, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I think it's quite a demotion for Washington to go from the one-dollar bill to the two-dollar bill. --Bkell 18:31, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Surely being on a higher denomination (curculating) bill is more desirable? otherwise why not put old George on the cent coin MrWeeble 23:16, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Why would anyone want to put George Washington on the cent coin?? He is already on the quarter coin and it is silly for there to be 2 coins with the same portrait. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.115.143 (talk) 01:59, 28 February 2004 (UTC)
- MrWeeble, no one in the United States ever uses two-dollar bills. They are considered rarities. --Bkell 21:17, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I use the two-dollar bill, they also aren't rarities, evidenced by the printing figures if you would look at this article: United States two-dollar bill.-MBK004 14:37, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- MrWeeble, no one in the United States ever uses two-dollar bills. They are considered rarities. --Bkell 21:17, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Get rid of the $2 bill, and switch to a $2 coin, similar to the Toonie. And put MLK on it. -Traal 09:02, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- My vote is that they kill the Sacajawea dollar. I hate coins so much. -Branddobbe 09:18, Mar 5, 2004 (UTC)
- Branddobbe, please don't say such a naughty thing. Please say instead, "I don't like coins because..." with a detailed explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.111.173 (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2004 (UTC)
- Would you rather use bills for everything, even cents? Nik42 06:17, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I like how Brasil has it. R$1 and R$2 bills, as well as a R$1 coin. I absolutly hate the british/euro system of 5 being the lowest bill.Jamesinclair 06:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Law enforcement (DEA, FBI, IRS, etc.) won't allow the creation of any more portable form of cash, Nik42; it makes it too easy to carry. If your business is legitimate, they argue, you don't need big bills: just use cards, checks, etc. that leave nice paper trails. --Orange Mike 04:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Seeing how this argument is so unencyclopedic, why don't you guys take it elsewhere? There's a forum for two dollar bills at [1], or you could go to the Wheres George Forums. BirdValiant 18:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
True or false??
editTrue or false: The next kind of dollar coin after Sacagawea will enter circulation in 2005. 66.245.7.175 20:07, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
- What I'm hearing indicates something to that effect. A nice rotating design to sucker in the coin collectors, the only market dollar coins seem to have right now. Why can't they just stop printing the bills? --Alexwcovington 16:32, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
- See Save the Greenback. There are entrenched special interests against getting rid of the dollar bill. — Nathanlarson32767 (Talk) 03:21, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- You mean, all of U.S. currency should be just coins?? 66.245.107.192 23:57, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
- I could go for that! :-) Though, I seriously doubt it'd ever happen. Nor did it seem to me that Alexcovington was suggesting that, just for the $1 (which is a rather low denomination to have a bill for, IMHO - especially when you consider that, with the exception of the fractional currency of the Civil War era, the $1 has consistently been our smallest bill, despite significant inflation) Nik42 06:17, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I can't find it
editI want to check for a look to the Presidential act of 2004 that talks about a proposed plan for future dollar coins. 66.32.246.73 01:40, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Fiscal impact
editI wasn't sure where the best place in the article would be for fiscal impact info, but it seems like an important thing to mention, since that was a major rationale for reintroducing the coin. — Nathanlarson32767 | (Talk) 07:30, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Trade dollars
editWe need a section on Trade dollars. Though no longer legal tender (I think -- need to double-check my history there) they are a significant element of U.S. coinage history and definitely deserve a mention on this page. Because they saw fairly little American circulation, they've largely been forgotten by collectors. —chris.lawson (talk) 00:20, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Section Headers
editPlease leave the format of the section headers in the form:
- Coin series (date begun–date discontinued)
It's this way in every single other U.S. coin article because that's the accepted numismatic convention, and consistency in this regard is important.
Thanks.—chris.lawson (talk) 23:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Where should be place the debate about phasing out the paper dollar and replacing it with the dollar coin? This issue is important. 24.54.208.177 01:38, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
1996/1997 silver dollar coins??
editI have a couple of supposed silver dollar coins, one has 1996 and the other has 1997 on them. But according to this article, none were minted between 1981 and 1999. What gives? --69.234.185.170 20:07, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Are they Silver Eagles? I guess you can say they are technically coins since they have a denomination and you could spend them for a dollar if the unreal happened and Silver dropped below the face value, but they are more like certified buillion tokens. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 23:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- They are actual, real US coins, legal tender for $1. However...as we all know, they're worth quite a bit more than $1, and one would be throwing away money to spend them for $1. It'd be kinda cool to see someone's reaction, though. ;) Timber72 05:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Historical Dollar stats
editSince the dollar coin has changed in size and composition so much during its history, I think it would be interesting for each older dollar to have its size, weight, and metal composition listed.
Also, does anyone know why the Mogan and Peace dollar had more silver per face value than the halves, quarters, and dimes of the same period (which were all the same as each other)?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.107.63.226 (talk) 18:51, 2 June 2005 (UTC)
Intro
editThe intro definitely needs rephrasing, but to make "silver dollar" the bold phrase in the first sentence is definitely not how to do it (since this article is "United States dollar coin", not "Silver dollar"). I have my own ideas, but I'd like to see some suggestions here from others before I taint anyone's opinion with my own. ;) --chris.lawson 01:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sloppy of me, I was redirected from Silver dollar and wasn't thinking. The second paragraph does follow the manual of style, though, in that it says "Sub-Foo is a thing of type Foo, class Foo2." The current first pararaph doesn't do that. Happy to do some back and forth on the main page until we get one we like, or do you prefer do do it here? - brenneman(t)(c) 02:15, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Also in the intro, there's the weasely, "purists insist", which is a weasely way to insinuate that they're wrong, by labeling them "purists" (not supported by any cited evidence), and that they "inist", a classic weasel word from the field of tabloid yellow journalism. Deleted, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 15:36, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Presidential Dollar Coin Program
editThe next coins after Sacagawea will enter circulation in 2007. Sacagawea will continue to be minted. All Susan B. Anthony dollar coins and any older (if left) will be removed from circulation. Because the bill is now law, you legally can't get a dollar bill at any place that gets a penny of federal money from 2007 onward throughout the program. though I do not want to venture outside the topic, I'm going to discussion a little. The Feds have pretty much decided to get rid of the $2 bill and half dollar. These ideas are not very popular, but virtual reality. However, the idea of removing the penny and dollar bill is very popular. The dollar bill is dead man walking with this bill. It is gone. The penny will probably be gone after 2009 because the bill says that the penny has to be redesigned after 2009 IF it is to be minted at all. So the penny is gone too. BTW, the portraits won't be moved. This is in order to avoid another Reagan discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.181.156 (talk) 06:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- (a) No dollar coins will be removed from circulation as a result of the Presidential $1 Coin Act of 2005.
- (b) No one will be prohibited by the Act from dispensing dollar bills. The Act requires entities receiving federal money to be able to receive and dispense dollar coins by January 1, 2008, and to display that they have that capability. This explicitly includes vending machines. But requiring them to accept and dispense coins does not prohibit them from accepting and dispensing bills.
- (c) Nothing in the Act mentions the $2 bill or the fifty-cent coin.
- (d) The Act does not call into question the minting of the penny after 2009. The Act gives direction as to the design of the penny after 2009.
- Jwolfe 06:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Sacagaweas in casinos?
editI've never seen a dollar slot machine that uses Sacagaweas (or Susan B. Anthonys or old-school dollar coins, for that matter) - all the casinos I've ever been to seem to use large, heavy gold-colored tokens (see casino token) instead.
However, casinos are the only place I've ever seen half-dollars in circulation, both for the slots and to payoff blackjacks on $5 tables (instead of using $2.50 tokens). Lordsutch 05:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
More pictures needed?
editDoes anyone agree that it would be useful to have more pictures in this article? A great many different dollar coins are mentioned, and some of them have links to articles about those coins, but only a few have pictures on this page. I think this article needs more pictures. Perhaps if some were copied from the other articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ONUnicorn (talk • contribs) 22:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I see someone has added some pictures. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ONUnicorn (talk • contribs) 14:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Infobox
editIs there anyway we can edit the infobox to be more informative about the general denomination of the Dollar than being strictly exclusive to the Sackie??--293.xx.xxx.xx 22:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I just think the infobox needs more info about dollars besides the new ones, at least include the other current dollar, the Sacagawea. -YB3 (talk • contribs) 05:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Sacagawea dollar has an infobox itself. But I'm guessing that you'd like to see the infobox on this page shows information about both coins. Perhaps I get work something out with the template. But I need input from you. What exactly would you like to see in the box (and we should make a general style guide for coins that have multiple designs that circulate concurrently, like the 50 State Quarters or 2 German mark). --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Dollar coins in vending machines and parking meters
editIn the past week I've found that the dollar coin is accepted in parking meters (Atlanta) and in a soda vending machine distributing Coca-Cola products in the ground floor of my building. I think that it's worth including a sentence stating that vending machines and parking meters now accept the dollar coin, since many people seem to think that the coin cannot be used. I tried to amend the entry yesterday but I see that it's been deleted, presumably by the person at Wikipedia that is responsible for maintaining this article.
Thank goodness the parking meter accepted the dollar coin last week, because I certainly couldn't have put paper money in the meter, and I didn't have enough smaller coins to pay for more than 5 - 10 minutes. Try it yourself and see if it works for you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.140.191.128 (talk) 20:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- While there may indeed be some parking meters and vending machines that accept dollar coins, any claim implying that many or most of them accept the coins -- which is precisely what your edit stated -- absolutely needs a citation from a reliable source. Once you (or anyone else) can provide that, I'll be happy to have it returned to the article.--chris.lawson 21:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- If a veteran wikipedian writes down what he/she observes from there he/she lives, does that count? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- Merely because one metropolitan area in the US has converted some (or even most) of its vending machines to accept dollar coins doesn't mean that the dollar coin is generally accepted in the US. Furthermore, that sure sounds like original research to me. I'd prefer to see a citation of an external source on this.--chris.lawson 07:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I have seen many vending machines that accept Sacajawea dollar coins. They always have a sticker next to the coin/bill slot that says it accepts them. These are food/beverage vending machines, not just ticket or stamp machines. I think it is at least worth noting that some vending machines do accept them, and not just dispense them. PhorkPhace 03:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- Does anybody really claim that most machines don't take them nowadays? In Milwaukee and other cities I visit, at least 80% of machines that sell anything for over 25 cents take them. (The only exception is coin laundries, which are on a quarters-only system.) --Orange Mike 14:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
While living in NYC in 1994, I fed a $20 bill into a Jersey Transit ticket machine at Penn Stn. It gave me nine Susan B. Anthony coins for change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.239.129 (talk) 23:46, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Paper supplier rumor
editAnybody ever hear the allegation that the real reason we haven't already dumped the $1 bill and printed large quantities of $2s instead, is that a paper supplier in Edward Kennedy's home district was the U.S. Mint's supplier for $1 bills only? --Orange Mike 04:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- All the notes are printed on the same paper from the same supplier. I forget where they are tho. Joe I 04:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- If the paper supplier has been lobbying, then they would print more $2. I think it's because of the irrational psychology of the American public wanting to keep the dollar bill. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
the death of ford
editcan we change "The program will run until at least 2016 with the coin commemorating Ronald Reagan, but may continue longer depending on the longevity of the currently living former presidents, and potentially even the longevity of the current president or presidents yet to be elected." to account for President Ford's death?--Rocketrye12 17:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- It's not necessary. Ford served before Reagan, so the sentence is still accurate as written. Jwolfe 04:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Which coin to show
editIn an attempt to avoid a revert war, I'd like to discuss here which coin should be shown on the page. There will be more presidential coins produced, but more Sacagawea coins will be produced than any one presidential design. With the 1/3 requirement, at least 2 out of every 6 coins produced each year will be Sacagawea, while approximately 1 out of every 6 coins produced will be one of the four presidential designs. Seems to me that for this reason we should maintain the Sacagawea coin as the representative coin for the page. Jwolfe 21:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- This is being discusses at Talk:United States dollar#$1 image in infobox --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 21:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Presidental coins - only dead presidents
editThe reason why only dead presidents (and only those dead for at least two years) will be featured on the new Presidental coin series is due to an existing federal law that creates this restriction. However, I could not find the actual text of the law. As such, I've simply placed a "citation needed" reference. If anyone has a link to the actual law, please cite it. Thanks. --CPAScott 22:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- It appears the change has been made. Thanks. --CPAScott 16:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Glad to help. --Orange Mike 16:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
My interpretation is that the series cannot honor President Reagan because President Carter is still living, and the series ends as soon as it cannot continue in order of succession. Am I incorrect? Currently the main page and the summary on this page reflect different information. Jeffbarnett513 (talk) 16:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)jeffbarnett513
- There's nothing I can find on the U.S. Mint website addressing this issue. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that somebody's quietly working on Carter, GHWBush, and Clinton designs, just in case. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:35, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- 31 U.S.C. § 5112(n)(8) specifies, "The issuance of coins under this subsection shall terminate when each President has been so honored, subject to paragraph (2)(E), and may not be resumed except by an Act of Congress", and (n)(2)(E) says "No coin issued under this subsection may bear the image of a living former or current President, or of any deceased former President during the 2-year period following the date of the death of that President." This means that if Jimmy Carter is still alive in mid-2014, then the program will end with Gerald Ford in mid-2016. However, if Carter dies before then, then the program will continue until at least the end of 2016 with Ronald Reagan (or later, if one or more consecutive presidents have died by the end of 2014).
- So it's not necessarily due to "an existing law"; rather, it's part of the $1 Presidential Coin law. (This doesn't exclude the possibility of there also being an existing law saying the same thing, of course.) --ΨΦorg (talk) 00:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- 31 U.S.C. § 5112(n)(4)(A) states, "In general.— The designs for the $1 coins issued during each year of the period referred to in paragraph (1) shall be emblematic of 4 Presidents until each President has been so honored, subject to paragraph (2)(E)." The concept of skipping a President is not excluded by the language. Further, the law does not explicitly declare the coins will cease when a non-eligible President's turn is reached. It can easily be argued that the law requires skipping living Presidents so that each eligible President (subject to paragraph (2)(E)) is honored. The way the article is currently written allows for either interpretation, so perhaps no changes to the article itself are necessary. --Sg199 (talk) 18:24, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Recognition In the U.S.
editShould it also be noted that it seems as though many people do not see dollar coins as real currency in the US? I went to a driving range, which cost 4 dollars for a bucket of balls. My mom gave me dollar coins (she had just gone to the post office which always gives them out) to use to pay. Keep in mind that I was 13 and the person at the cash register was somewhere around 25. I gave him the four coins and he said "This is not enough money for even a small bucket. You need 3 more dollars for a medium bucket." At this point, I was struggling not to laugh. Apparently, he had never seen or even HEARD of a Susan B. Anthony dollar. I had to show him the part where it says one dollar, and then even worse, I had to explain that it was not a collectors item but true currency. Has anybody else had similar experiences? PhorkPhace 03:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- Absolutely. I went to deposit 25 Susan B. Anthony dollars. The teller counted them 4 by 4. I reminded him that they're dollar coins so there was no trouble there. But I don't blame him. The SBA dollar is indeed too similar to the quarter. This problem is alleviated now.
- See also [2]. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
false statement removed (re: tarnish on Sacs/Prexibux)
editHi all,
I've removed this sentence:
This was corrected in 2007, when Sacagawea dollars started receiving the same treatments to prevent tarnish that were applied to the presidential dollar coins (see below).
I've done some reading into this and wrote two coin people. One was Mike Wallace, the owner of United States Small Size Dollar Coins and Related Items, a site about the SBA, Sac, and Prexibux. I asked him about the claim. He wrote back:
A friend of mine spoke to a dealer that claims that he can tell the difference between a pre-2007 Sac$ blank and a Presidential Dollar blank because a different rinse was used. But I suspect he was saying that because he was trying to sell a golden dollar blank described as a Pres$ for several hundred dollars,,,,,,,,,, as opposed to a Sac$ blank that sells for about $100. Other than this I haven't heard anything about a different rinse being used, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I also wrote to Al Herbert, a member of the ANA Board of Governors. He wrote back:
The only they could change the tarnish would be to change the coin alloy in some way and I haven't seen anything that would confirm a change.
On the basis of these things, I've removed the clause. If anyone has info to the contrary, feel free to reinsert it. - Thanks, Hoshie 06:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Should American Silver Eagles be on this page somewhere?
editAmerican Silver Eagle ? I don't know enough about coins to include it. --Rajah 04:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- inserted it in its chronological place; anybody want to put in the picture, too? --Orange Mike 14:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
No. They are bullion coins, not circulating coins, and as such, should be included on a bullion page. 71.136.185.225 04:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC) Timber72
- They are, nonetheless, legal tender. Why exclude them? --Orange Mike 14:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- because they are not circulating US coinage. They are "$1" in name ONLY. The US gov't could have as easily called them "$2", or "$5" (as the Canadians did with the maple leaf.) Timber72 09:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Fixing Morgan, Peace, and GSA sections
editI am cleaning up and fixing errors in the Morgan, Peace, and GSA sections...quit reverting. Thank you. 71.136.185.225 04:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC) Timber72
- Your edits removed content without an explanation and therefore looked suspicious. In the future, please consider placing Template:Inuse on the page to keep this from happening again.-MBK004 03:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
They looked "suspicious", because you are too quick to assume that edits are "suspicious". There's no reason to assume someone would want to vandalize a page on US Silver Dollars. If you had just waited to see what my edits WERE, you would have seen that they fixed erroneous information, fixed my own edits, and expanded on certain sections.
Previous edits were ALSO by me, and used (I assume) the same static IP.
However, I will use the "Inuse" template from now on so people don't run screaming to the conclusion that a page is being vandalised, instead of being FIXED. I thought that was the PURPOSE of Wikipedia, so that ACCURATE editing can be done by ANYBODY, without intrusion by well meaning, but quick to rush to judgement "editors." Thanks.
Early Dollar Coins
editThe final two paragraphs of the section "Early Dollar Coins" are pure nonsense. I dont know where this fud and cruft comes from. Its nonsense to imagine that the lower value US coins would be exchanged 1-1 in the caribbian, unless the Caribbian government declared the US dollar to be accepted at that rate. I am away from my resource texts at the moment, so I can not suggest a concrete reason why the author would belive this to be the case, but I will come back and add to this later.
The final paragraph is essentially rubbish stemming from a complete misunderstanding of the reason for Greshams law, and when it actually fails. Greshams law fails when legal tender laws do not enforce a nominal value of coinage. IN absence of legal tender laws, coinage will circulate based on market value, rather than assigned value. Legal tender laws are a way to assign value to (sort of fiatize) a specie currency.
A partial correction - which is not perfect but is a thousand times more accurate than what exists in the page - follows:
Once a government sets a fixed value for specie coin, if the fixed trade value of the coin is significantly below its precious metal value, it is simply melted and sold for more as bullion.
The issue is really about how governments screw up the funcion of specie currency by assigning an arbitrary nominal value to the coin. Once this is done to a specie currency, if the value of the metal itself varies - as it does - an increase of the value of the metal above the nominal specie value causes the coins to be melted for the metal since it is worth more as bullion.
Conversely, if the value of the precious metal drops compared to the nominal value of the coin that holds it, what actually happens is that usually it causes the government to print a whole lot more of the coins, since it is a revenue making exercise. If the coins have a further market actually bringing money into the country by exchange with caribbian coins of higher metal content, then that is a good thing for the US, but a bad thing for the Caribbian. It would be up to the Caribbian government to stop it to prevent the drain of their currency by lower value coin.
Sorry, ths has gone on longer than I intended, but I dont have time to edit it down. I will review this later. ---- Octothorn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.45.156 (talk) 08:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Mint marks???
editThere was no mention of mint marks for the Eisenhower, Susan B Anthony, or Sacagawea dollars, and only the location on the president coins. What mints made and are making these coins for circulation? 70.187.75.72 (talk) 18:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- Broadly speaking, Philadelphia and Denver struck circulation coinage for all four types of dollars, while San Francisco minted coins for the collector market. San Francisco also minted business strikes of the Susan B. Anthony dollar in 1979 and 1980. Nibios (talk) 15:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Image copyright problem with Image:SacDollar.jpeg
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2009 Update needed
editA lot needs to be done to update the page. I have given a starter section on the Native American coins, but the rest of the article needs to follow since those are the "new" Sacagawea dollars. We need to update the reverse picture, move the old picture somewhere else and put the "future" tenses to past or present tense. Basically, it needs a rewrite. --Triadian (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Sacagawea Dollars?
editCan someone add this coin and other current coins at the begining list? --Parker1297 (talk) 16:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Saving money?
editI recently saw posters in the DC metro touting dollar coins as a way to save the U.S. money (expanded upon at http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/07/23/dollar_coins/). Should this be part of the article? Galatians 4:7 (talk) 11:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- The article you linked to is from 2008. We'd need a more recent item than that. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:23, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- I have, however, added a bit about the pro- and anti-elimination organizations, both to this article and to the dollar bill article. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:39, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
1935-1968
editWas there no dollar coin minted in the US between the Peace dollar and the Eisenhower dollar?Masternachos (talk) 04:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- Nope. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Louis Braille Dollar
editI have three Louis Braille dollars that were issued in 2009. Shouldn't these be mentioned here? (Why is there no Wikipedia articles about this coin?) Here are two articles about it at Coin Update: Louis Braille Commemorative Coins and Louis Braille Silver Dollar Sales Ending Today Note: I posted the image at right to three other Wikipedia articles already. Bien amicalement, Charvex (talk) 06:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Original Sacagawea dollar image
editThe image being used for the obverse of the 2000-2008 Sacagawea dollar is incorrect. They had the date on the obverse next to Sacagawea. --Ibagli (Talk) 22:56, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Upside down?
editI have a 2010 silver dollar in front of me. If set it so the obverse is the right way up, then the reverse is upside down, and vice versa. Is this normal? Circulated coins where I live in the UK have the obverse and the reverse in the same orientation. Zargulon (talk) 08:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, this is normal.--Ibagli (Talk) 17:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Are you sure? In Europe this is a classic mark of a counterfeit coin? --2.25.67.169 (talk) 23:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- Looking at the contents of my pocket, all of my coins appear to be contra-faced, so I do believe that this is indeed normal in the States. Goalbox (talk) 22:51, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Are you sure? In Europe this is a classic mark of a counterfeit coin? --2.25.67.169 (talk) 23:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I have a 1971 JFK half dollar and a 1979 Susan B. one dollar. Both coins are contra faced. The JFK is much larger. The JFK has the Federal Seal, while the Susan B. has a perched eagle.220.244.239.129 (talk) 23:40, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Correct links?
editAre the links under "Designs" correct? Both the "Liberty Head (Small Size) 1849–1854" and "Indian Head (Large Size) 1854–1889" link to a page titled "Gold dollar", and that coin shows three designs for the obverse, all showing Liberty. (Although one is claimed to be Liberty as an Indian princess.) Elsquared (talk) 03:36, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Metal prices
editI noticed that some of the metal prices here are out of date. Is it even worth keeping them in here considering they change so often? Goalbox (talk) 09:15, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
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E PLURIBUS UNUM is 13 Letters and is Symbolic of 13 Original United States
editThe Latin motto - E PLURIBUS UNUM - is a very old saying and means 'out of many, one'. Why not put that on all US currency? Because that's only 12 letters and besides the Latin sounding scholarly, E PLURIBUS UNUM is 13 letters and like the 13 stripes on the United States Flag is symbolic of the 13 Original United States. 2601:580:109:6470:6C47:F5B6:F71F:E99D (talk) 23:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- This is not the right article to explain this. You might want to try the E Pluribus Unum article itself. - ZLEA T\C 00:07, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
1905 - 1920 hiatus?
editApparently no dollar coins were minted from 1905 - 1920. The article should explain why. This reader would like to know! 2601:281:CC80:5AE0:FC17:F524:E0AE:C441 (talk) 11:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- There weren't any minted in that period because the Treasury had all the silver dollars it needed. I'm not sure that's worthy of inclusion in the article. Almostfm (talk) 16:25, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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Is this information false or misleading?
editAt the side in the box we read:
- "United States
Value 1.00 U.S. dollar Mass 8.100 (2000–) g (0.260 troy oz) Diameter 26.5 mm (1.043 in) Thickness 2.00 mm (0.079 in) Edge Plain with incised inscriptions Composition Copper with manganese brass clad (copper 88.5%, zinc 6%, manganese 3.5%, nickel 2%) Years of minting 1794–present[1]"
Was the coin described in the first 7 lines minted from 1794 to present??? (FairNPOV (talk) 18:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)) Blocked sock. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:00, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- FairNPOV I'm not sure what you find potentially false or misleading. Yes, the US Mint struck the first dollar coin in 1794 and production continues to this day, there's nothing false or misleading about it. - ZLEA T\C 19:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Would that box be improved either by prefacing the descriptions with what specific dollar coin is being described or by including a series describing the quite different dollar coins which have been minted or by giving a range, like X mm to Y mm? Do they all have the same mass, diameter & thickness? Are not silver eagle dollars in being minted?(FairNPOV (talk) 00:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC))Blocked sock. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:00, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- Given that there have been a dozen different designs, seven different compositions, and at least five different diameters, adding all that to the infobox would simply make it unwieldy. I think it's less confusing to leave it as it is-the article is going to mention the differences anyway-the infobox is (at least to me) supposed to give a basic thumbnail of the article, and it does that now. Almostfm (talk) 08:58, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have to agree with the original poster. The infobox implies that ALL United States dollar coins ever minted have been that particular size. As this is not true, we are misleading the reader. This needs to be changed in some way. At least put in a "current size" note.--Khajidha (talk) 16:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Khajidha FairNPOV Perhaps we should do what is done at Penny (United States coin). In that article's infobox we list only the current specs of the coin as well as how long they were since they were last changed. - ZLEA T\C 16:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Even that infobox is misleading. The penny has not always been 19.05 mm (0.75 in) in diameter, as that infobox implies. Any note about size, composition, or design of a coin needs to be specific as to which mintings it is relevant to. --Khajidha (talk) 17:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with FairNPOV and Khajidha on this. Specific information on the physical coins do not apply to a denomination as a whole, but are appropriately expressed on specific subarticles like Sacagawea dollar. CMD (talk) 17:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Khajidha But do you agree that the concept would make the infobox less misleading? - ZLEA T\C 17:33, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Considering that that's what I said to do before your reply, the answer is obviously yes. --Khajidha (talk) 17:39, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Even that infobox is misleading. The penny has not always been 19.05 mm (0.75 in) in diameter, as that infobox implies. Any note about size, composition, or design of a coin needs to be specific as to which mintings it is relevant to. --Khajidha (talk) 17:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Khajidha FairNPOV Perhaps we should do what is done at Penny (United States coin). In that article's infobox we list only the current specs of the coin as well as how long they were since they were last changed. - ZLEA T\C 16:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- I have to agree with the original poster. The infobox implies that ALL United States dollar coins ever minted have been that particular size. As this is not true, we are misleading the reader. This needs to be changed in some way. At least put in a "current size" note.--Khajidha (talk) 16:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Given that there have been a dozen different designs, seven different compositions, and at least five different diameters, adding all that to the infobox would simply make it unwieldy. I think it's less confusing to leave it as it is-the article is going to mention the differences anyway-the infobox is (at least to me) supposed to give a basic thumbnail of the article, and it does that now. Almostfm (talk) 08:58, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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Rarity
editThere are an estimated 100 million 1$ coins in circulation and in good condition can be rare 69.118.127.72 (talk) 03:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC)