Talk:Doctors (2000 TV series)/Archive 1

Dated photo

I just wondered whether the 3 year old photo is really necessary on such a small page. If the page were larger and contained more info on past storylines relating to these older characters I could understand, but as it is I do not feel that it add anything really. Perhaps listing the names of the cast under the more recent photo would be more useful? Holypeanut 15:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

New talent?

Isn't this the show that the BBC encourages budding writers to try out for? If so, this should be mentioned. 86.146.232.174 00:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

It's certainly the series that writers with limited talent should try for.79.66.114.105 (talk) 09:30, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Should the Trivia section be edited/removed as I believe Emmerdale now also names all of it's episodes, and therefore it cannot be claimed as the "only one"? Garej (talk) 16:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Only hour long episodes of Emmerdale have titles. Half hour episodes don't. Digifiend (talk) 08:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Who has deleted?

Who has deleted, Karen Hollins, Rob Hollins, Letherbridge and Dr. Simon Bond? Please undo this now!

Redped

P.S- This is not nice behaviour! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redped (talk • contribs) 17:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Notability must be asserted through third-party sources. If you understand that, I suggest you ease off your contributions and lurk for a while until you get a better grasp of our conventions. There are some well-written character articles about The Simpsons, for example. There are some terrible, appalling, embarrassing, foul articles about soap opera characters. you should not add to the problem by creating more. Thanks. The JPS^{talk to me} 18:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

2,000th episode

The section on the 2000th episode is badly written, not cohesive and not spell-checked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.227.238 (talk) 23:11, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I've rewritten the article as some information had been duplicated at the bottom. I have also removed the elongated information for the 2,000th episode, which was badly written and unneeded as no other show, and no other soap, has this information for a specific episode. Quentin X (talk) 23:39, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Need reliable sources

IMDb is user-edited, and only rare information is labeled "verified". Please provide independent WP:Reliable sources in addition to IMDb. Also, http://www.tvstudiohistory.co.uk is a personal website - these, per WP:RS, are generally not accepted. Better quality sources (official, books, news, etc.) should be cited. --Lexein (talk) 21:55, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Article title

I was wondering whether or not this article should be renamed. I thought that "Doctors (soap opera)" or "Doctors (serial drama)" may be a better title. I'm not sure the use of "2000" is all that great seeings as it is an ongoing series.Rain the 1 17:38, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I completly agree! I got really annonyd by this! I think soap opera is most suitable. I'll do all the relinking (I have done a lot of that lately on Doctors articles, :) — M.Mario (T/C) 19:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I thought this too. It might be worth looking into getting the article moved to "Doctors". If that can't happen then I would go for "Doctors (soap opera)". Mario, you don't need to update all the links manually, just ask someone with WP:AWB to do it all in one go. - JuneGloom Talk 19:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I was just going to say this myself, this should be renamed! Bleaney (talk) 20:34, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Well "Doctors" would be ideal - but would they let that happen and what would we need to do to raise the discussion about that? If not, I would support "Doctors (soap opera)"Rain the 1 21:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I think you may have to put in a request at WP:RM. - JuneGloom Talk 22:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I pretty sure there will be many programmes called simply 'Doctors', I'd suggest something like Doctors (UK TV series). Bleaney (talk) 14:29, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually there doesn't appear to be any according to this list [1]. The only thing titled Doctors is Doctors (novel). - JuneGloom Talk 17:43, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I prefer Doctors (soap opera) to be honest. Just my opinion though. :) — M.Mario (T/C) 14:34, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

If we can't have Doctors, we should have Doctors (soap opera). Make a decision though. :)Rain the 1 17:55, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Well Doctors (soap opera) has been voted three times, however I think we all prefer Doctors, there are quite a few links to Doctors though however some just seem to be miss linking, such as when people say; "This town has four doctors" which seems to be a common thing. So, we may have to discuss whether we think we can move, such as other programmes were called The Doctors (1969 TV series). — M.Mario (T/C) 20:36, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Doctors (soap opera) seems to be the best option. Adamiow (talk) 09:10, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Having remembered this discussion, is there enough consensus on using Doctors (soap opera) so that I can move the article? Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 20:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

4 users have agreed on (soap opera), so I guess so. — M.Mario (T/C) 16:58, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

All done and I have put in a AWB request to fix all of the links. However, just one question. I am going to rename List of awards and nominations received by Doctors (2000 TV series). However, do you think it should be Doctors or Doctors (soap opera)? It just seems to read a bit wrong if it says only Doctors, as per the character pages, as it suggests that it is about doctors in general rather than the show. I would appreciate your views, thanks. Adamiow (talk) 08:49, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, I think it should be Doctors (soap opera)? But that would mean that the categories/templates should follow the same suit. — M.Mario (T/C) 19:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Just to let you know, having been approved for AWB, I have fixed all 700+ links to reflect the name change. Also, I have moved the awards page and fixed these links too, so everything is nice and tidy now. Adamiow (talk) 18:08, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

The naming guidelines don't allow for "soap opera" to be used as disambiguation. I've moved it to Doctors (2000 TV series), but personally I think Doctors (TV series) is sufficient enough, in the same way that Doctor (film) is considered suitably disambiguated from The Doctor (1991 film) and The Doctor (2013 film). I'm assuming that the reason it wasn't at Doctors (TV series) in the first place was because of assumed ambiguity with The Doctors (TV series), but I think the hatnote clears that up. --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:12, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move 27 October 2017

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Reasonable points from both sides on a subjective issue. Jenks24 (talk) 11:30, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Doctors (2000 TV series) → Doctors (TV series) – Any other television series is called The Doctors (see Doctor#Television) so additional disambiguation unnecessary. --woodensuperman 14:32, 27 October 2017 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:14, 2 November 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 19:18, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

• Support: It would make sense as there's no other TV series titled simply Doctors. We can always add a hatnote to Doctor#television for those series titled The Doctors. This is Paul (talk) 14:51, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
• Support. An uncontroversial technical request. Analogous to The Nurses (CBS TV series), The Nurses (ABC TV series) and Nurses (TV series). Other possible move candidates are Nurse (1981 TV series) and Nurse (BBC TV Show). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:53, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
• Support per the nom and comments. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:32, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
• Support I moved this page to Doctors (TV series) many years ago but it got moved by another user last year after a new show called Doctors launched. However, having checked Doctors (2016 TV series), it seems that the show has changed its name to Doctor Crush, so this should no longer be a problem. I'm happy to sort this out and do all of the redirects if it reaches consensus after 7 days. Adamiow (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose the Korean TV drama is better known and is not always called "Doctor Crush", it is called "Doctors" also as the image in the article shows. Plus which the many "The Doctors" TV series are often abbreviated to Doctors. The 2000 is helpful, it fixes this minor Birmingham UK drama in time in 2000. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:30, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

I think you're misrepresenting this. Is a one-season Korean TV drama really more well known in the English speaking world than a popular British soap opera that has broadcast 3.5k episodes in 17 years and regularly pulls in an audience of over 2m? --woodensuperman 13:34, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose Doctor Crush is currently named incorrectly. I spot checked all the external links and a few english references and none of them call it anything but Doctors. Since Doctor Crush should more correctly be named Doctors (2016 TV series), this article must keep its longer disambiguation. -- Netoholic @ 11:00, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

If there is consensus to move the Doctor Crush article to Doctors (2016 TV series) then we can revisit this. Until then a hatnote will suffice. --woodensuperman 13:34, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

• Support - Doctor Crush only ran for a month and 3 days and so as such there's no need to disambiguate nor is there any PRIMARYTOPIC for it - The UK show is by far the most notable and so as per PRIMARYTOPIC should be moved, Had DC ran for more than a month then there would be a need to disambiguate but not for this sorry. –Davey2010^Talk 13:18, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

  There's no such thing as a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for a particular disambiguation method like (TV series). If something is a PRIMARYTOPIC, it gets the undisambiguated name. If its not, then it is fully disambiguated along with all others that are also to be disambiguated. -- Netoholic @ 17:09, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

• Ahhh sorry I thought this was being moved to Doctors only .... Neeevermind!, –Davey2010^Talk 17:06, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

• Support per the nomination and comments. Soaper1234 - talk 16:15, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose. I was about to agree with the comments above, and perhaps even consider moving to the primary topic Doctors, based the assertion that the Korean series is "a one-season Korean TV drama". But the page views tell a different story - Doctor Crush enjoys about 85% of the page views for the three "Doctors" topics,[2] and is clearly also called "Doctors" in many places.,[3][4][5]  — Amakuru (talk) 12:15, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

• Comment However, when breaking it down to those visiting Doctor Crush vs those visiting Doctors (2016 TV series), the latter is only around 1.5% of the total views, suggesting that Doctor Crush is fine and a change of name for this page would have little impact. [6] Adamiow (talk) 00:09, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

• Interesting... I've never seen the analysis extended in quite that way before. Normally I'm not a fan of page views, and need to think about that! Andrewa (talk) 04:18, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose. Looking at the DAB section Doctors#Television and the evidence above, the proposed reduced disambiguation is insufficient. Close, but no, the reader is better off with it as is. Andrewa (talk) 16:32, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:PRECISE per Netoholic and In ictu oculi ; multiple series are known by this name, so this automatically fails WP:PRECISE. Further, this is not a primary topic request, because the destination carries a disambiguator, which is by definition, not a primary topic. And this is not the primary topic of just plain Doctors. The redirect at Doctors (TV series) should be returned to pointing to the disambiguation page. -- 70.51.45.76 (talk) 04:11, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 21 May 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus from this individual RM is against the move and the applicable guideline, WP:NCTV, appears to favour the current title. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 10:13, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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Doctors (2000 TV series) → Doctors (soap opera) – Currently a redirect to the same article DarkGlow (talk) 18:34, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:08, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

• @DarkGlow: Doctors (2000 TV series), The Doctors (1963 TV series), The Doctors (1969 TV series), The Doctors (2016 TV series), a South Korean drama - leave well alone. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:32, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

• Support In the English speaking world, Doctors is the only series you listed that is titled simply Doctors rather than THE Doctors, therefore it makes sense to rename it. A disambiguation could be placed at the head of the article too, if this is the worry. – DarkGlow (talk) 07:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Nominations are taken to imply a support !vote per WP:RM#Commenting in a requested move. SITH (talk) 10:13, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose (soap opera) is not a disambiguation style supported by WP:NCTV. -- Netoholic @ 07:41, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
• Speedy close as a style that is not supported by WP:NCTV and which there is no need to make an exception for. See also Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 140#RfC Is "telenovela" a suitable disambiguator? for a similar situation. --Gonnym (talk) 15:40, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose. This would surely make it more ambiguous with The Doctors (1963 TV series) which was apparently also a soap opera. PC78 (talk) 16:01, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

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