Talk:Dislocation of Sámi people from Jukkasjärvi and Karesuando

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Wait what?? Is this literally talking about the movement of a few hundred people almost 100 years ago? If so it probably shouldn't have it's own article. As it is it definitely shouldn't have its own article because there's no sourcing for any of it at all. Is this plagiarized from some where, or where does any of this information come from? Is this a joke? (24.46.31.192 (talk) 00:51, 6 September 2012 (UTC))

It is more notable than the High Arctic relocation, which was only 92 people. In fact both are notable because they're evidence of the displacement of indigenous peoples by "modern" societies past the age of colonialism. That's notable enough. Special:Contributions/TheSands-12 20:23, 26 May 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSands-12 (talk • contribs)

Firstly, while this is part of the broader social issue of forced displacement, having it as a separate article allows for an easy search if a researcher for example was looking into this period of Sámi history only. Furthermore, I must agree with TheSands-12, it is a relevant social issue and adds to the conversation on the topic of Indigenous Studies and conflicts between native and non-native peoples to avoid repeating history. Books on the topic, such Elin Anna Labba's original Swedish version of "The Rocks Will Echo Our Sorrow" would not get awards if the international community felt that way. These events often have far-reaching consequences, at minimum for the peoples who experienced them, even if you do not feel they are relevant to you directly. Please consider this in the future.

That said, I do think, as I said in the section on changing the title, that this article may be too narrowly focused by region (and/or one of several incidents of forced displacement of the Sámi), making it difficult to broaden out and add new information as it is made available. Still needed in my opinion, but needs some rewriting and restructuring KnowTheManyHistories (talk) 19:54, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Re-title and expand?

There has been recent scholarship, such as Elin Anna Labba's "The Rocks Will Echo Our Sorrow: The Forced Displacement of the Northern Sámi" (link: https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/the-rocks-will-echo-our-sorrow) on the forced displacement of the Sámi in 1919-1920 (which too was called Baggojohtin by the Sámi) with the article beginning in the 1920s (in the last year of this event as chronicled by Labba) and going into the 1940s. The narrowness of the title does not allow for the expansion of this topic into different periods of Scandinavian and Sámi history and disallows the expansion of the topic to show further breath. Could shorten to "Dislocation of Sámi people" or "Forced Displacement of Sámi" (which while re-written more is arguably a more accurate description). This would allow for the current material presented to be fleshed out in more detail and additional available scholarship on the topic to easily be added. Thanks for reading!KnowTheManyHistories (talk) 19:46, 3 September 2023 (UTC)