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References edit
What references should be put? Exe csrss (talk) 07:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, chembook is not a good source, I would count it as a bit unreliable as it is an aggregator of stuff that may not be all correct. eg the presence in composting duck manure is counted as a "use", That's not a USE! Textbooks are good. Review articles are good. Magazine articles, TV documentaries, encyclopedia might also do. Primary research articles might be OK, but best if they are referenced and not criticised by others. English language is not required. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- The problem is that there are not many references other than pubchem. Even the German wikipedia, which is famous for having many articles about chemicals not found elsewhere, does not have any information.Exe csrss (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- There might not be much to say about this chemical. However, it is potentially notable as the "first of its class" (according to the organoselenium chemistry article). A cite for that would be a big start, and probably enough (along with the usual chemical data) to be a viable article. ChemSpider or Pubchem sometimes include journal-article refs for a compound. DMacks (talk) 22:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Two other uses I see by quick lit search: use as selenium source for thin-film metallic materials (doi:10.1080/15421406.2011.601169) and as an anti--knock additive (less effective than tetraethyllead--lots of mentions and primary refs, Google Scholar and you can probably find a secondary one). DMacks (talk)
- There might not be much to say about this chemical. However, it is potentially notable as the "first of its class" (according to the organoselenium chemistry article). A cite for that would be a big start, and probably enough (along with the usual chemical data) to be a viable article. ChemSpider or Pubchem sometimes include journal-article refs for a compound. DMacks (talk) 22:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- The problem is that there are not many references other than pubchem. Even the German wikipedia, which is famous for having many articles about chemicals not found elsewhere, does not have any information.Exe csrss (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Found this ref via a crystal structure: NEYCUP from P. J. McKarns et al., Inorg. Chem. (1998) 37, 418-424. Used as a precursor to titanium diselenide films, but not sure if this is just an academic curiosity. --Ben (talk) 22:15, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
3D Models edit
Which software is generally used to create 3D models for wikipedia articles? Like this one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Ethanol-3D-balls.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exe csrss (talk • contribs) 07:12, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Popular ones among the chem/bio/pharm Wikipedia editors include Accelrys, PyMOL, JSmol, CCDC's Mercury, and Avogadro (software). I think that particular ethanol is from Accelrys (User:Benjah-bmm27 uses it, and has some notes about it on his userpage), but I think that might be commercial software. The others all have no-cost options and typically have similar visual-appearance settings. DMacks (talk) 14:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah that ethanol pic was done with Accelrys DS Visualizer, now named BIOVIA Discovery Studio Visualizer. I've been using CCDC Mercury recently, as well as Avogadro. --Ben (talk) 22:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- I tried accelrys and avogadro, but the result was not like the images used on wikipedia Exe csrss(talk) 05:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)