Talk:Diagnosis of autism

Requested move 14 June 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. Although there was some talk about moving to a specific title about disagnosis in children, it sounds like more information will be added to cover more age groups soon. If not, another move discussion can be opened. (non-admin closure) - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 11:34, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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Autism diagnostic process → Diagnosis of autism – I believe it makes sense to have a general article on diagnosing autism (and closely related conditions, e.g., PDD-NOS), rather than having an article specific to one or some (presumably modern) diagnostic processes. This new, broader article could also be a place where various screening and assessment tools are summarized. Most books on autism conditions written for psychiatrists and psychologists contain such a part/chapter. TempusTacet (talk) 10:35, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Although given the current scope of the article, Diagnosis of autism in children would be more appropriate. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:37, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

I agree but I'd rather we add some information on diagnosis in other age groups (possible sources for diagnosis in adults include doi:10.1007/978-3-030-28833-4_3 and doi:10.1177/1362361320903128) than immediately start with a separate article on diagnosis in children.--TempusTacet (talk) 15:14, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

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Merge Diagnosis of Asperger syndrome into this article

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The article Diagnosis of Asperger syndrome covers much of the same content, in addition to re-telling the changes brought about by the DSM-5 and the discussion whether AS can meaningfully be separated from autistic disorder/childhood autism, which is/should be covered in Asperger syndrome. The diagnostic process is for the most part identical, many instruments developed for diagnosing AS such as the Adult Asperger Assessment (AAA) or the Ritvo Autism and Asperger Diagnostic Scale are used for diagnosing DSM-5 ASD and instruments like the ADI-R are/were also used for diagnosing AS.--TempusTacet (talk) 07:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Oppose, as there are meaningful historical/historiographic differences here. While the AD/AS distinction didn't work out in the long run, there was definitely a lot of effort put into distinguishing them from a diagnostic perspective, including particular supposed cognitive patterns (e.g. the VIQ > PIQ vs PIQ > VIQ 'distinction', which is particularly notable because it was retroactively invented by its influence on diagnostic patterns), the perspectives of people like Gillberg that differed from DSM language, and the dispute over the relationship between Asperger's and other ASDs (it's striking to read 1980s papers on "childhood schizotypal personality disorder" and see the very consistent agreement that "the first description of childhood STPD was by Asperger"). That's not necessarily to say the article does the best job of clarifying how Asperger's diagnosis differed from autism diagnosis, particularly the variant criteria, but it doesn't do too bad a job either. Vaticidalprophet 00:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose. The political motivations which pressured the medical community into conflating Aspergers Syndrome with autism are highly controversial within the Aspergers community. As brain scans demonstrate that they have opposite causes, from a scientific perspective it is absurd to consider them anything but distinct conditions. 1.127.107.51 (talk) 11:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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university assignment

Hi, Im student from Uskudar University. I edit this article (Diagnosis of autism) as an assignment for my course (Recent Developments in Biotechnology). I already completed Wikipedia training modules to be proficient in Wikipedia editing. I would appreciate any support. Best wishes, ASMA HADAD Asmahadad23 (talk) 18:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)