Talk:Dhoby Ghaut MRT station/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Vincent60030 (talk · contribs) 17:57, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello there kang, I will begin the review with some general comments. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 17:57, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

General notice: I have noticed you used a lot of "the". Please cut them down. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• "..., after Bras Basah MRT station, Promenade MRT station and Bencoolen MRT station;..." this is unnecessary
• "The station was opened in 1987 as part of the NSL line extension to Raffles Place station. The North East line station then opened in 2003, and the Circle line station opened in 2010. Currently, on the MRT network, Dhoby Ghaut station is the only MRT station in Singapore to be a triple-line interchange." I do not see any mention of extension to Raffles Place in the article, just Outram Park. Also no mention of the latter sentence in the body
• "It is located in Dhoby Ghaut, Museum Planning Area, at the eastern end of Orchard Road shopping belt, underneath Orchard Road and The Atrium@Orchard shopping mall. The station is situated near prominent landmarks such as The Istana, Istana Park, the MacDonald House, the House of Tan Yeok Nee, Plaza Singapura and Dhoby Ghaut Green." I do not see this either. Please add in the location section
• I also suggest a little description of the design/artwork in the station, which would interest readers

Location

I reckon a location section be added, describing the station's surroundings and like the origin of its name. Refer to Acton Town tube station for a more detailed context.

history

north south line station

• Think the first paragraph could be moved into the location section
  •  Done
• "Prior to the construction, tenants of Amber Mansions have to move out to make way for the construction of this station, with the land already gazetted for acquisition in 1978." this needs a little copyedit, and avoid euphemism (replace move out with i suppose were evicted)
• "the soft soil also..." also isnt suitable to be used here
  •  Fixed
• "The contractor was fined S$1,000 (US$724.64) for failing to provide a stable footing for the outrigger of the crane and not posting and maintaining a capacity chart" too technical, please rephrase
  •  Done
• "open house" "opened for service" needs some copyediting
  •  Fixed
    • I have made a better version of it, do take note haha Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
• "Dhoby Ghaut was one of four stations which participated in Exercise Northstar V, a mock terrorist exercise held on 8 January 2006." was this only carried out on the north south line platforms?
  • I assume so; there are very little details regarding the exercise.--ZKang123 (talk) 03:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
• Optional: "In September 2000, works started for lift access to be added to the station" do you have info regarding when the lifts were ready as the source appears to have some sort of mentioning based on its title
• Sources issues below:
  • "Contract 106 for the design and construction of Dhoby Ghaut and 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) of tunnels between Somerset and City Hall stations was awarded to a joint venture between French contractor Campenon-Bernard and Singapore Piling and Civil Engineering Company Limited at a sum of S$51.3 million (US$37.17 million) in October 1983." The sources only mention giving the contract of constructing dhoby ghaut station to the joint venture, not contract 107 which covers construction of the tunnels." Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 09:36, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Contract 107 is for the construction of tunnels between City Hall and Raffles Place, which isn't relevant for this article.--ZKang123 (talk) 09:06, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Reference 15 and reference 16 are duplicates
  •  Fixed
  • May I ask what is the ResearchGate website all about? Is it like research done by third party?
  • It is a website where documents are published. The document is a research on the exercise and its effectiveness, see here, by SMU--ZKang123 (talk) 09:06, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

north east line station

• I do not get why it is a north east line extension I thought it is just a new line, please clarify
  • I mean, because the original source (article) said it was an extension, but I have changed it to be a new MRT line.--ZKang123 (talk) 03:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
• if you have abbreviations like NEL NSL, please define them when it is first mentioned. For example: "Great Northern Railway (GNR), with subsequent mentions using just GNR"
  • It has already been defined in the lead. I can retention the abbreviations if you want to.--ZKang123 (talk) 03:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
    • Yes, please add in the first body section. That's what people usually do as well. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
      •  Done Defined in header.--ZKang123 (talk) 09:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• "The construction of the NEL had posed several challenges." i doubt this is necessary
  • I rather have this sentence, to highlight the reader on what is being talked about on the following paragraphs.--ZKang123 (talk) 03:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
    • Ah I see, but unfortunately it reads more like from press releases, and wikipedia is more on the factual side. How about you rephrase it into smtg like "Construction of the NEL station was done with considerable difficulty." Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
      •  Fixed
• "Another difficultly was the irregular shapes and varying sizes of the five levels of the station, bound by space constraints. This had made it difficult for the implementation of the temporary retaining walls for the site due to the many voids in between the station levels." reads more like an essay; since i suggested difficulty in the previous para, you can use challenge here instead.
  •  Fixed rephrased.--ZKang123 (talk) 09:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
• "The station construction also required liaison with owners of the buildings and businesses in the area, ensuring the stability and smooth operations of the surrounding businesses above ground." i think you can put this into an extra note instead since it is not really as relevant
  • Still kept for now, will deal with this later.--ZKang123 (talk)
• Source issues below:
  • "Construction began in January 1997 and completed on 20 October 2001, with services operating since 20 June 2003" not cited in both references sorry
  •  Fixed Changed to conform to source in news article and website.--ZKang123 (talk) 09:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
    •  Question: Sorry to trouble but which part of the source cites the 20 June 2003 opening? I couldn't find it. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 18:03, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
      • @ZKang123:. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 10:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I've been seeing lots of mentions of this same source. Please change them to harvard reference to condense them. You can refer to Acton Town tube station for reference again
    •  Fixed I see.--ZKang123 (talk) 09:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • I do not see this source mentioning about temporary retaining walls so perhaps move this citation up to the five levels sentence. It also does not cite the liaison with owner part.
    •  Fixed

circle line station

• "The CCL station box had already been constructed during the construction of the NEL station.[36] Contract 825 for the design and construction of the circle line station and associated tunnels..." needs a little more clarification at the latter sentence since you mentioned station box already
  •  Fixed
• "The contract also includes the construction of the Bras Basah, Esplanade and Promenade stations.[37][38]" unrelated, please put into an extra note. You can use {{refn}} as a starter
  •  Fixed
• "To facilitate the construction" the tone is not needed, too technical. Just say during its construction
  •  Fixed
• "Along with the other stations on Stages 1 and 2, the station started operations on 17 April 2010" the first part is vague, define a little bit more please
  • Added footnote.--ZKang123 (talk) 11:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

station details

station design

• "The tiles at the platform also functions as a guide for the passengers to the platforms and indicate the spots where the train and platform screen doors will open." ce needed. and tiles is plural
  •  Fixed
• "...deepest platforms..." platforms is unnecessary
  •  Fixed
• "...five-levels." you don't need the hyphen here
  •  Fixed
• "The basements and the station linkways integrate with the atrium of the office complex above the station with natural lighting filtering through into the station via light wells." this sentence reads like a monster
  •  Fixed
• "...which was rather unusual but allows the freeing of space to allow natural light into the station" huh?
• "The CCL station design, like all stations on the line, takes into account certain factors such as safety, comfort and convenience, in addition to giving them a stylish modern outlook." reads like an ad, and the next sentence after this quoted one needs a little copyedit
  •  Fixed Removed for now. I am unsure how to rephrase this.--ZKang123 (talk) 07:11, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

public art

• I have noticed quite a significant amount of paraphrasing here please fix.
• "The artwork is a combination of ceramic and mosaic works that spreads across walls, columns and the station floor and spreads out at the foot of the escalators and four sets of column rings." monstrosity sentence
• "The station also features Art Seats, which have creative design to enhance the commuters' experience on the line." creative design doesn't give meaning to this
• "These seats are also displayed in the other CCL interchange stations." irrelevant, put into extra note
• Source issues below:
  • The source did not mention the artwork location, particularly the interchange concourse between the North South and Northeast lines. Any source you can provide?
    • Issues above fixed.--ZKang123 (talk)

Conclusion

I'm done with the review, feel free to address the comments while I put this on hold. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 11:53, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

@ZKang123: I noticed the lead section has footnotes (refn), which is actually not needed. Just delete the extra info. Also "Since 4 November 1989, the line was served by the NSL to Marina Bay station instead." this is not in the history section. The content in the footnote is irrelevant as well. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 15:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

I am happy to pass this now. Vincent^LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 12:23, 8 October 2020 (UTC)