Talk:Despina Khatun

Latest comment: 4 months ago by Alkis0 in topic Change the title of the article

Comments edit

The Despina Khatun is a personage I've been meaning to write an article about, but have held off due to insufficient material. Looking at what was accomplished on fr.wikipedia gives some hope a useful article could be created here -- although some of the material there won't work over here. One English-language source worth using is a title from the publications of the Hakluyt Society, Travels to Tana and Persia, edited & introduced by Lord Stanley of Alderley. (Admittedly a bit dated, but it is available as a free pdf thru either archive.org or Google Books.) Some of Uzun Hassan's background can also be found thru Franz Babinger's, Mehmed the Conqueror and his Time -- although Babinger's account has been criticized because of his lack of a bibliography. IMHO, one needs to investigate the legend of Despina Khatun a little more thoroughly than the French article has, seeing how it ties into the Romantic image of the Empire of Trabizond. (And which also needs further research beyond my brief cribbing from Miller's notes in Empire of Trebizond.) -- llywrch (talk) 22:44, 7 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Seclusion? edit

She was married to a Muslim ruler: was she secluded in the harem, or was she allowed to socialize with men?--Aciram (talk) 14:05, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

"Queen?" edit

The article calls her queen. But she was not married to a king, and her spouse, being a Muslim, may have had other wives as well, thus a equivalent position did not really exist. What title did she actually have? --Aciram (talk) 14:05, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Change the title of the article edit

There was a third "Despina Khatun". The famous Maria Palaiologina (1265 – 1282). The "Despina Khatoun" was more of a title than a name. Therefore the article's title should change to the original name of the lady, "Theodora Megale Komnene". Then there should be a disambiquation notice somewhere. Alkis0 (talk) 19:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply