Talk:Design and capability of aircraft carriers during World War II

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Bryantbob in topic Completed citations and removed template

Overview of article series regarding aircraft carrier operations

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This article is intended to be part of a series of six focused upon aircraft carrier operations during World War II. The original article was broken down into six separate ones due to length of the subject matter.

It was originally intended that all of these articles be completed before going live on Wikipedia, but the pandemic makes it prudent to go live with what is available now and add the rest of the material as it is completed, COVID willing. The planned articles are outlined below.

1st (main) article Aircraft carrier operations during World War II

  1 Ascendancy of aircraft carriers
  2 Functions performed by aircraft carriers
  3 Aircraft carrier contribution To Allied victory
  4 Atlantic theater carrier operations
       [including link to separate article #2]
  5 Pacific theater carrier operations
       [including link to separate article #3]
  6 Lists of aircraft carriers operational during the war
       [including link to separate article #4]
  7 Lists of carrier operations during World War II
       [including link to separate article #5]
  8 Design and capability of carriers during World War II
       [including link to separate article #6]
  9 Carrier air squadrons and crews
  10 Carrier aircraft
  11 Carrier and carrier aircraft weapon systems
  12 Footnotes
  13 Principal sources
  14 Citations
  15 See also

2nd article Atlantic theater aircraft carrier operations during World War II

  1 Atlantic war overview (1939-1945)
  2 Carriers in the Atlantic (1939-1945)
  3 Commanders, organizations, and strategies (1939 - 1945)
  4 Battle of the Atlantic (1939-1945)
  5 Battle of the Mediterranean (1939-1943)
  6 Allied Invasion of North Africa (1942)
  7 Allied invasion of Italy (1943)
  8 Allied invasions of France (1944)

3rd article Pacific theater aircraft carrier operations during World War II

  1 Pacific war overview (1930-1945)
  2 Carriers in the Pacific theater (1939-1945)
  3 Commanders, organizations, and strategies (1939-1945)
  4 Japanese invasions of China (1931-1945)
  5 Japanese invasion of French Indochina (1940)
  6 Japanese rapid expansion of empire (1941-1942)
  7 Allied battle for East Africa and the Indian Ocean (1940-1945)
  8 Turning points in the Pacific war (1942)
  9 Allies take the strategic initiative (1942-1944)
  10 Allied drive across the central Pacific (1943-1944)
  11 Allied domination and victory (1944-1945)

4th Article Lists of aircraft carriers operational during World War II

  1 American carriers
  2 British carriers
  3 Japanese carriers
  4 Other countries carriers
  5 Carriers sunk
  6 Carriers damaged
  7 Carriers operational at the end of each month

5th Article Lists of Carrier operations during World War II

  1 Named operations involving carriers
  2 Carriers at specific battles, invasions, and raids

6th Article Design and capability of aircraft carriers operational during World War II

  1 Fleet carriers
  2 Escort carriers
  3 Other carriers

Bryantbob (talk) 04:41, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

I have submitted text and tables I drafted about aircraft carriers to both Wikipedia and the World War II Database. (See, for example, a summary article at https://ww2db.com/other.php?other_id=49 In some cases, some of the text I submit to the two websites is identical. It is not copied from one website to the other but comes directly from me. I am posting this information on this Talk page in case a contributor/editor comes across verbatim submissions and suspects it is plagiarized. It is not. I draft the text for both websites. The text I submit does not include changes from other contributor/editors. I claim no copyright for it. Text I draft for both websites may be freely copied and used by anyone. I believe my submissions are in keeping with all the policies of both websites. After communicating my intentions to make submissions on a non-exclusive basis to a contributor/editor at World War II Database, I received the following reply:

“You said, ‘My only requirement for providing content for World War II Database is that doing so does not in any way constrain my using the same material for use elsewhere.’  No problem.  WW2db has some concerns about how WW2db content is used elsewhere but the contributed material belongs to the contributor.  Besides, no one can copyright the facts of history anyway; an author can copyright the precise text he uses to describe it, but the underlying factual information cannot be copyrighted.  If you know a thing from history, you can write about it or talk about it as many times as you want in as many places as you want and nobody can say “Boo” about it.  Even if WW2db could limit your use of your material elsewhere, we wouldn’t want to.  The important thing here is the story – and the World War II story is an important one – so if the story gets told here and there and also some other place, we see that as a good thing.”

Bryantbob (talk) 19:03, 24 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, Berek. I added links at the beginning of the main article to the other five articles in the series. Also, a link to the main article is at the beginning of each of the other five articles. Bryantbob (talk) 14:44, 1 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Restoring tables with specification and performance data

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Thank you again, GraemeLeggett,‎ very much for taking an interest in this article. I believe the combined, chronologically arranged data for aircraft carrier specifications and performance parameters are of interest to academics and others for tracking how aircraft carrier design and production by the various combatants progressed, side by side, during the approach to and commencement of WWII. Also of interest are the ranges for the highs and lows for these parameters for each type of carrier. I restored to the article the lines of the table with key performance parameters for the ranges for Japanese carriers as well as for “All Carriers” that contained useful data. I had posted the uncompleted portions of the combined table in hopes of adding additional data sooner or of others taking an interest in the data and entering it themselves. As time permits, I will complete input of the data for the combined table and add the tables for American and British carriers, including the specification/performance ranges. Also, I would very much welcome help on how to correct the impression that the article is a personal reflection or argumentative essay so that this template can be removed. Thanks again for your interest and help.Bryantbob (talk) 03:38, 21 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Completed citations and removed template

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Citations were completed and the following templates removed:

  • "Full citation needed|date=January 2022"
  • "Incomplete short citation|date=January 2022"

Bryantbob (talk) 16:19, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply