Talk:Derussification

Requested move 5 May 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 12:05, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

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Derussianization → Derussification – This would appear to be the most common term in English, and would be analogous with Russification and derivative pages on-wiki. QueenofBithynia (talk) 22:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Why is this not the name already? I would have bet that an article like this would first use "Derussification". Super Ψ Dro 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
• Support, per nom. BD2412 T 03:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
• Support. More common in Google results. MichaelTheSlav (talk) 22:00, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
• Support, more natural-sounding term. JIP | Talk 12:55, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
• Closing comment: This completes a circle of moves starting with

18:34, 6 October 2005‎ AndriyK talk contribs block‎  30 bytes +30‎  Derussification moved to De-Russification

and will hopefully now lead to stability. Andrewa (talk) 12:05, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Law of March 21st

@Yulia Romero: The source speaks of "names that glorify, perpetuate, promote, or symbolize" - that's something different. An edit summary is supposed to summarize the edit, not to repeat it. Rsk6400 (talk) 19:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I got better things to do in my life then summarize edits.... I also do not have to summarize edits if I don't want to.... I prefer people making meaningful edits on Wikipedia without fussing about administrative details... I also do not like to be talked to as if you are my kindergarten teacher.... (and I do have the feeling you are doing that).

Lb.ua clearly stated in the reference that "Geographical names associated with Russia have been banned in Ukraine"; so I assumed that they have been banned. Besides any toponymy in Ukraine with a name associated with russia can be seen as a name that glorifies, perpetuates, promotes, or symbolizes russia. So from my understanding it is not something different, or I have no idea what you are trying to tell me... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

When I saw the expression "associated with Russia" I thought of a piece of Russian propaganda once again trying to portray Ukraine as madly anti-Russian. Even a "Crimea Street" could be called "associated with Russia" because Crimea is associated with the Russian aggression. After having a look at your user's page I'm quite sure that you didn't intend to spread Russian propaganda, but I still think that we should stay close to the exact wording in legal matters. If you want to restore the edit, I'd ask you to add a quotation both in Ukrainian and English. (I assume that you know Ukrainian, of which I know only some words and basic concepts). Rsk6400 (talk) 07:05, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

After WWI

Dear IP, you repeatedly removed text from the section Derussification#After_the_collapse_of_the_Russian_Empire. As I see it, that text is an introduction necessary for understanding the subsections and also to distinguish that period from the period of derussification after the fall of the Soviet Union. You should take a look at WP:NPA. Rsk6400 (talk) 09:07, 22 April 2023 (UTC)