Talk:Denise O'Sullivan/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 10:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
• It contains copyright infringements -
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Prose

Lede

• North Carolina Courage of the National Women's Soccer League - whilst this is fine, perhaps we should mention that this is in the USA, as unless you put together "North Carolina", there's nothing here suggesting this is in the states. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added. --SuperJew (talk) 09:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• career with Wilton United - I'm assuming this was an Irish team of some sort. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added nationality. --SuperJew (talk) 09:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• She also guested for Peamount United - what does "guested" mean in this context? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Replaced with "played" as can't find any sources supporting guest player status. --SuperJew (talk) 11:31, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Carolina is a duplicate link. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Removed duplicate. --SuperJew (talk) 10:29, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• Most Valuable Player (MVP) - do we need to initialise here? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Uncapitalised --SuperJew (talk) 10:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• The lede seems to omit that she has 80 caps for her country. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added. --SuperJew (talk) 11:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

General

• I'm not sure what the quotebox adds. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • I reckon it gives some insight of the player on herself. Do you think it should be removed? --SuperJew (talk) 11:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• with Wilton United - which is? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Added club nationality --SuperJew (talk) 10:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• paid Glasgow an undisclosed "four figure" transfer fee - is this a quote? Undisclosed is probably enough. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • the source says "The move, for an undisclosed four-figure sum, marks the first time a Scottish women’s club has received compensation for a player." I expanded with it being the first time a Scottish etc. I think the term four figure gives an order of magnitude for the fee. --SuperJew (talk) 10:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
• I suggest merging the three loan spells into one subsection. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Merged. --SuperJew (talk) 12:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi, what does "original reviewer unavailable but review is 98% complete" mean exactly? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
    • @Lee Vilenski: The page was originally reviewed for GA at Talk:Denise O'Sullivan/GA1 by The Rambling Man. Most of the issues were dealt with. The only issue that remained was regarding whether the sources from Cork Beo and from Extratime.ie are reliable. There seems to have been a few short circuits in communications and The Rambling Man decided not to pass the review. The issues about these sources were actually dealt with - the Cork Beo reference was replaced with a The Sydney Morning Herald reference and regarding the Extratime.ie references, I asked at WP:RSN, where the consensus was that it is reliable for Irish soccer players. --SuperJew (talk) 12:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
      • Sure, I think I was more asking who is nominating the article for GAN this time? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
        • It's Hmlarson who is nominating it and nominated it last time :) (I just like helping them with small fixes and stuff, but they do the heavy lifting on these ;) ) --SuperJew (talk) 13:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

• @Lee Vilenski: Hey Lee :) All the issues above have been addressed. Is there anything else needed? --SuperJew (talk) 12:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)