Talk:Demographics of Kuwait/Archive 1

Archive 1

contradictions

Ethnic Persians in kuwait make up around 30-40% of the population, hence why most kuwaitis are bilingual.

--- there are some contraditions in the percentage of sunnis and shia in this page. beside that , the page give a false impression that there are Hindu or jewish Kuwitis, this is not true. --Wisamzaqoot 16:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Racism is very rare in Kuwait??? Very untrue. --Aryanast 6:28. 25 May 2009 —Preceding undated comment added 15:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC).

Religion

I've summarised the evidence for the Sunni:Shia split over on Talk:Religion in Kuwait. Seems silly to copy and paste it here.

There's also a possible problem with the CIA Factbook (apparent) assertion that only 85% of the citizen population is Muslim. It's like to be about 100%, although I'd assume that some of those are more devout than others. This issue is detailed over there as well. Bromley86 (talk) 17:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

CIA Factbook vs. other sources

Just reverted a couple of edits that placed CIA Factbook 2013 above the census results (preliminary) from the 2011 census.

The Factbook is a useful tool, but it's not infallible. Particularly regarding Kuwait, there are a number of significant differences between the Factbook and other reputable sources:

1. Muslims (citizens). Factbook says 85%,[1] US DoS effectively says 100%.[2] Now, we don't know how the Factbook arrived at the 85%. We do know it's talking about citizens, as the Hindu and Christian non-nat contingents would reduce the Muslim% well below 85% if they were included. We also have independent confirmation of the 200 Christian citizen figure from NECK (although likely NECK were the source of the DoS' info in the first place).[3] So, in the absence of any other information, the Factbook appears to be wrong on this.
2. Non-nat total. CIA Factbook 2011 has the non-nats at 1.3m (you can download it here, or you can take my word for it).[4] CIA Factbook 2013 has them at 1.3m.[5] 2011 census has them at 2.0m.[6] So, per the 2011 census, the 2011 Factbook was wrong (the actual number was 50% higher!). It's actually worse than this though. The 2013 Factbook's non-nat number of 1,291,354 looks suspiciously like the 2011 number of 1,291,354. So they've just rolled the number forwards, despite there being a census in between that highlighted the substantial error.
3. Non-nat detail. The figures that were included in the table showing non-nats are either from the 2011 census or from the Ministry of Planning (the source can be read either way).[7] Whichever, it's an official government source. I chose to interpret it as not coming from the census, as the total of those non-nat categories is slightly different to the total non-nats reported in the census, hence why I dated the info 2012 (per the date of the article). The Factbook doesn't include similar figures, but it does include Ethnic Groups. As with the proportion of Muslims, it doesn't specify whether it's talking about citizens or total population. In this case, it seems likely that it's not talking about citizens, as I doubt that the Kuwaiti% would be so low or the South Asian so high (anyone want to argue that 9% of Kuwaiti citizens are South Asian at the same time than only 4% are Iranian?). So the Factbook (in both 2011 & 2013 - the proportions are the same both times) appears to be claiming that only 9% of the total population of Kuwait is South Asian at the same time that the DoS claims that there are 600k Hindus and the official figures put the total South Asian contingent at 1/3 of total population. Factbook fail 3.

I hope that demonstrates why the Factbook should be evaluated, as with any source. I'm reversing the recent changes that have emphasised it over the 2011 census. Bromley86 (talk) 09:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

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