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Talk:Demographics of Crimea

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Toddy1 in topic "become to account for"

Are we dealing with the demographics of the AR Crimea or the whole peninsula, including Sevastapol? I suggest the latter is more meaningful these days. PatGallacher (talk) 00:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 10 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I tried to find some statistics on religion, but nothing so far. All I have seen are general statements like "the Crimean Tatars are Muslim", so, essentially "90% Christian, 10% Muslim", but obviously we need actual statistics (viz., prevalence of non-religion, Christian confessional divisions, etc.). --dab (𒁳) 12:15, 27 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Crimea became Russia’s very own holy place. [1] Christian priests are being threatened and kidnapped in Crimea by Russian forces [2] [3] [4]. Crimea's Catholics make up around 10 percent [5] and have no legal status according to the article. According to the World Jewish Congress, there are some 15,000 Jews in Crimea [6]. USchick (talk) 16:26, 5 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
This is interesting. They considered making it a Jewish homeland before Palestine. [7] USchick (talk) 20:45, 5 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

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An editor is making the following change from (changed part in bold):[8][9]

exiled Crimean Tatars began returning to their homeland and would become 10% of the population by the beginning of the 21st century

to

exiled Crimean Tatars began returning to their homeland and become to acount for 10% of the population by the beginning of the 21st century.

The "would become" construction is acceptable English. The "become to acount for" construction is not acceptable English.-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:59, 16 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

I have alredy agreed with you that such construction isn't used in English, but I can't understand why construction "would become" pointing out future action were applied here. In my opinion we have a deal with action which happened in the past, so we have to use Past Simple tense to express it but not Future-in-the-Past. Sergey Tsvigun (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
The "would become" construction is used to discuss dinosaurs, and they are very much in the past:
  • "But these specimens, fragmentary vertebrae and limb bones, were only the first trickle of what would become a flood of German prosauropods."[10]
  • "prosauropods gave rise to the true sauropods, the familiar long-necked giants that would become the top herbivores for the next 100 million years."[11]
  • 'In later ceratopsians these horns would become enormous structures to complement additional horns on the top of the skull."[12]
  • "He doubted that dinosaurs would become extinct merely because of climatic changes."[13]
  • "Late Triassic dinosaurs were found in the regions that would become Northern Europe"[14]
  • " And who would have imagined it would become possible to figure out the colours of some of the feathered dinosaurs"*[15]
-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:26, 16 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
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