Talk:Democratic Party of Japan

Post-war？

The following phrasing as of August 8, 2005 was rather odd -It grew from a small party to a major force in post-war Japan. in "post war" Japan? The party was founded in 1998, I'd say that date was "rather" Post-War--Francis Burdett 13:29, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

　Maybe "post-cold-war".58.90.243.132 15:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

The party was found in 1998 by merging four smaller parties, that's a key factor of how it "grew from a small party to a major force", so the influence of the party could date way back before 1998, I think. DerekJoe 06:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Platform

I'm curious: What is the general platform of the DPJ? Obviously, the defining characteristics of a political party are difficult to pinpoint, but it would be nice to see something I can compare directly with the LDP, ideologically. Thanks Cherry Cotton 07:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

10 months later, I pose the same question. Especially in like of their recent electoral victory, I hope that someone who is knowledgeable about the DPV (not me!) will take the time to patch such a critical gap in this entry - wormcast 20:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I want to know their platform too... Lord Metroid (talk) 09:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Is DPJ a member of Alliance of Democrats?

Mr. Amagase, is there any official party decision on the membership of DPJ in Alliance of Democrats? As far as I know, no official information on this issue is found in the DPJ website. The link you mentioned (http://www.allianceofdemocrats.org/cms/view.php?dir_pk=8&cms_pk=34) only shows that Mr. Naoto Kan "joined" the meeting (meaning that he took part in the meeting). Furthermore, according to the CALD website, DPJ is not a member of CALD (http://www.cald.org/website/memberparties.htm). Could you please show me your source for the revision you made? Karadameguricha 10:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The DPJ have blown hot and cold on ALD and LI membership owing to the factions belonging to presidents and their previous parties.

As of autumn 2015 it is participating in the Progressive Alliance (http://progressive-alliance.info/2015/09/21/penang-list-of-expected-participants-7/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrShoganai (talk • contribs) 14:26, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Clearify

• In the 2004 House of Councilors elections, the DPJ won a seat more than the ruling Liberal Democrats, but the LDP still maintained its firm majority in total votes. However, this was an extremely important outcome, since it was the first time since its inception that the LDP had garnered fewer votes than another party.

• In Upper House election 2007, the DPJ won 60 out of 121 contested seats, with 49 seats not up to the election, causing the LDP to lose its majority in the upper house for the first time since its inception.

Can someone explain to me when LDP first lost majority in the Upper House (House of Councillors)? Kaddkaka (talk) 15:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah sorry, I'm just stupid. The answer is of course that not all seats were targets of the voting, right? Well it's hard to understand without reading more about japanese politics in other articles... Kaddkaka (talk) 16:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Merger with Liberal Party to form the Liberal Democratic Party

This article needs to better clarify that there have been many Liberal parties and multiple Democratic parties in Japan's history, so as to not imply that the current Democratic Party merged with the ruling Liberal Party in 2003. SteveSims (talk) 05:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Update with Ozawa resignation, please

I've included the "update" template in the History section, because the article doesn't talk abaout the resignation of the Ichiro Ozawa in may over a fund scandal. Sorry, I have not a suffisant level of english to write it.--Verbigracias (talk) 17:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Whaling

"They advocate the abolishment of Whaling that the previous government allowed." What's this doing in the intro? It's hardly one of their defining policies. JIMp _talk·cont 08:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Ideology

I have removed the uncited list of descriptors in the ideology section, and have added "centre" to the political position field. The Japanese Wikipedia, in fact, lists all manner of ideologies on the infobox, including conservatism, centre-right, liberalism, and nationalism. Academic sources (including the one I've just cited on the page) emphasize that the party varies significantly in its policies (it is more neoliberal than the LDP on many economic issues, for instance), and it certainly can't be pigeon-holed as "centre-left".

I am not ultimately convinced that it is useful to have the ideology section or the political position section at all here. The DPJ (like the LDP) is extremely difficult to analyze in terms of a consistent policy platform in the Western sense because it is made up of an arrangement of a variety of different competing factions structured around politicians with very different ideological slants. I'm not convinced that the usual left-right descriptors are useful at all outside of the West either, actually, but its usage is particularly egregious here. --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 23:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC) — Just to be clear, I'm not proposing that right-left be dropped everywhere (since it's my own opinion and decidedly WP:OR), just that there's no ideology agreed upon by external sources in this case and there can't be because of the party's structure. --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 22:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Merger

Merge with the Democratic Party (Japan). --Kaihsu (talk) 11:37, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

 Disagree: The two might have similar names in English, their Japanese names are different. Also, Minshinto is the merger of this party with another party, the two are different. --Emphrase 12:12, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

References

2012 Defeat?

Reading the section "2009-2016," one could be excused for thinking that the DPJ was still in power today! Its electoral loss is mentioned in the opening summary but a more detailed analysis - or at the very least an acknowledgment - is required in this section. Orthotox (talk) 19:34, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

You are 100% correct. There was a five-year blank from June 2010 until February 2016. I had written summary of their time in power, but the page froze so most was lost. I have added what I previously saved, but do not plan on writing the same material twice in one day. I will come back tomorrow. There are plenty of references at the biographies of Naoto Kan, Yoshihiko Noda, Shinzo Abe and the more recent leaders if anybody wants to help. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 05:32, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

National symbol desecration

One cannot desecrate the circle, but his personal knowledge of geometry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:4108:5F00:B577:E8C5:B37A:AB6E (talk) 00:21, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

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