Talk:Deaths in May 2010

Peter Lopez (attorney)

Does a career as an attorney representing famous musicians, including seven years for Michael Jackson, give him enough notability to be listed? Jim Michael (talk) 01:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Then that should be listed in the notice, not that he was the husband of someone notable.

 Done WWGB (talk) 02:02, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Gareth Swift

I removed this person (d. 25 April 2010) as non-notable but WWGB reinstated. Now his notice is linked to the Featherstone Rovers page, where he's not even mentioned. I dispute strongly that this person should even be listed, and I believe linking him to the club page attempts to make him appear more notable than he is, and to avoid a red link which would indicate he doesn't have an article of his own. I'd edit but fairly obviously my edit will be reverted so am opening discussion here instead.--Be best (talk) 04:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what the fuss is about. Swift had played for the Featherstone Rovers first team prior to his death [1] so an article about him would probably satisfy WP:ATHLETE anyway. As for having a "blue link", that will not stop the listing being deleted on 25 May unless he has his own article (not redirect). WWGB (talk) 05:18, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably changed since this was posted, but "Now his notice is linked to the Featherstone Rovers page, where he's not even mentioned." is wrong as he's mentioned on the page. 87.194.86.204 (talk) 02:54, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Gul Makai Osmani

Is this a notable death? I havent found any link to this person before the suicide attack today. --Andres arg (talk) 22:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

If he was the suicide bomber, yes...if victim, no. You don't have articles for celebrities before they become famous, this isn't a reason for never giving them an article, if they are more notable now than they were before, they're worthy of an article, and if they're notable for their cause of death, then they're notable for addition. Of course, they're only notable if they succeed in their attempt, or fail spectacularly enough to get media coverage, and it may be "tomorrow's chip paper" and in that case he's not notable :-) 87.194.86.204 (talk) 02:52, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Armando Lucero

Does anyone know his date of death? Argentine incest suspect Armando Lucero dies

This article states "ayer" (yesterday), meaning 5 May. WWGB (talk) 22:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

So what's up with this? Should he be listed? I would disagree, as I don't consider I think it gives people such a recognition for what they did on their life. But we don't know anything this good about person, he was a serious rapist who had seven sons with his daughter. I remember we listed the Jessica Lunsford murderer, so I don't know whether if you all agree with my suggestion (anyway, Im not going to add/remove him). --Andres arg (talk) 02:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Many people have said that we shouldn't have articles about criminals, and have pointed out that the victims rarely have their own biographies. However, there is a lot of mainstream media coverage of serious criminals and their crimes, and they are studied by criminologists, sociologists, psychologists etc. Jim Michael (talk) 23:36, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

References format

Why was it changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ifore2010 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, but it should be the same format for every month; at the moment some of them are this format, some of them are still in the old format. Jim Michael (talk) 23:36, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I have reverted them all to the old format as there was no consensus to change. As usual, it seems to be someone running amok with a WP:BOT. WWGB (talk) 00:26, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I accept it was a BOT that effected the recent changes. However, I do not see any tangible reason to differentiate this ever-ongoing article's referencing style, from the referencing format generally sought for all other Wiki pages. Or, if there is, I suggest that it should be made more obvious. Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:45, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Past discussion about this matter at Talk:Deaths in 2008#Bare references and Talk:Deaths in 2007#References. As I have stated previously: (1) this page is heavily edited by novice users who will no doubt screw up inline references, (2) inline references make the article much longer and therefore much slower to load, (3) bare references allow immediate confirmation of the death without moving to the reflist section, (4) no-one has shown how such a major revision will actually improve the article. WWGB (talk) 01:01, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

When I saw the format yesterday (7 May 2010), my reaction was that this page was being formatted like most of the other pages in Wikipedia. I do agree with WWGB, that inline references are easier to change as updates come in. Inline references also make for less clutter on the bottom of the page as, IMO, it's unnecessary to see the title and publication of the source, at least on this page. Including that makes for more typing or more copying and pasting as well. I'm glad that WWGB took the initiative to revert to the old method. :) Addendum: I hope that bot, if it is a bot, does not revert this page back to the other format! Ed (talk) 14:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 95.18.188.195, 12 May 2010

recent deaths Antonio Ozores, 81, spanish actor, cancer, [`[[2]] (spanish) 12-5-2010 thanks 95.18.188.195 (talk) 16:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Y Done. Cheers, tomasz. 16:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Timothy Grubb

Relink Tim Grubb to Timothy Grubb as linked in the pages on the 1984 Olympics. --~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miebner (talk • contribs) 07:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Klaus Kotter

German sports executive, died May 13th, see http://www.focus.de/sport/wintersport/bob-langjaehriger-bob-praesident-kotter-gestorben_aid_508047.html -- Aspiriniks (talk) 13:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done WWGB (talk) 13:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I can't believe this guy has his own article, let alone be worthy of being listed on here. Was it a slow day for deaths or something? Still polaris (talk) 04:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Ronnie James Dio

His death is not yet completely confirmed, there are many contradictory reports regarding his death. We should not post it until we have absolute confirmation of his death, or we should at least put a note that it isn't confirmed. --Starbucks95905 (talk) 19:49, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

http://www.ronniejamesdio.com/ That's the real deal, also here: http://www.facebook.com/OfficialRonnieJamesDio--Pookeo9 ^{Talk If you need anything} 20:06, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Jack Lupton

Please add. American Philanthropist and Coca Cola Bottling Magnate. Died natural causes (long term battle with complications after stroke) at 83. Father and Grandfather both have pages that need to be updated with info. http://chattanoogan.com/articles/article_175778.asp. Thanks and hope it opens back up soon for general public use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnydoo (talk • contribs) 04:29, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done WWGB (talk) 04:41, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 81.47.192.162, 17 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

recent deaths. Alfonso Escamez, spanish banking executive, 94 [3] (spanish) 16-05-2010 81.47.192.162 (talk) 09:51, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Done, and I've started a short article on Escámez Alfonso.  Chzz  ►  10:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done

Notability?

A maths teacher dying getting reported in his local paper is not exactly notable! - Walter Rudin, 89, Austrian-born American mathematician, Parkinson’s disease. [8]

You'll note that he wrote two widely-used textbooks, and won a major prize in his field. If that doesn't satisfy WP:PROF, I don't know what does. Rodhullandemu 20:25, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, a bit of difference between a "maths teacher", as you put it, and 'Professor Emeritus of Mathematics at the University of Wisconsin–Madison'. N'est pas ? Also, please sign your comments. Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Vincent Kitchen

The speedway and longtrack driver Vincent Kitchen, aged 42, died today after a race crash. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.139.228.150 (talk) 18:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

 Not done. I cannot find a reference to confirm this. WWGB (talk) 01:45, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

german wiki and german regional media 84.139.176.136 (talk) 10:59, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Vincent Kinchin. WWGB (talk) 11:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, member of Great Britain national long track team, don't know why i wrote the t and not n. 84.139.176.136 (talk) 13:38, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done. WWGB (talk) 13:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Leonida Georgievna

{{editsemiprotected}} Leonida Georgievna passed away on 23 May 2010 at 23:55 local time. Please correct date.

http://www.imperialhouse.ru/rus/allnews/news/2010/2299.html

95.30.127.80 (talk) 20:36, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Done SpigotMap 22:05, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 81.47.192.186, 25 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} CAN YOU ADD? RECENT DETAHS: ALEXANDER BELOSTENNY, 51, UKRANIAN BASKETBALL PLAYER, LUNG CANCER 24-05-2010 [[4]] THANKS

81.47.192.186 (talk) 16:07, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Done SpigotMap 16:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Gabriel Vargas

Gabriel Vargas, Mexican cartoonist, died 25.5.2010, 95 y.o., heart. [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.137.215.39 (talk) 23:45, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done by User:Kiwipat. WWGB (talk) 05:31, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 125.21.184.227, 28 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} please change nationality of madan tamang killed on may 21 from Nepali to Indian

125.21.184.227 (talk) 10:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Not done: I've looked at several online references to this individual's death, and almost all of them refer to him as a "Gorkha leader", suggesting that Nepali is the correct nationality. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 11:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Gary Coleman

I read somewhere that his IC hemorrhage was caused by Traumatic brain injury from a fall. not sure of source. Can someone check, and add if source is reliable?--69.248.225.198 (talk) 18:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Sources are unclear / contradictory on this. Did the hemorrhage cause him to lose his balance and fall, or did the fall cause injury to his head causing the hemorrhage? Jim Michael (talk) 18:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Franz Vonlichten

One of the members of the musical group E.S. Posthumus died at some point in May. When announced in July, the date was given only as "two months earlier." Is there a procedure for adding an unknown date to this list, or is it better left off? Kevinbrogers (talk) 04:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

All deaths are recorded against a particular date, either the date of death or, where that is not known, the date that the body was discovered/death was confirmed. WWGB (talk) 05:40, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

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