Talk:Death of Phil Hartman

Redundant?

Is this article really necessary? All of the content has just been copied from Phil's page, so what's the point? Gran² 01:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Obviously people think its good because its still on here, besides, the have articles for John Lennon, Michael Jackson and others. Besides, not EVERYTHING is copied from the Phil Hartman article. Dpm12 - 10 December 2010 at 8:30 AM PST.

"Obviously people think its good because its still on here" - considering you only created it yesterday, that's not exactly the best argument, I doubt many people have even seen it. John Lennon and Michael Jackson were far more internationally famous than Phil Hartman and their deaths far more significant. And no, everything is just copied from Phil's page. There is no information included here that isn't already there. I suggest this article is redirected. Gran² 20:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Gran, no not everything is copied from Phil's page. I wrote this myself:The Murder of Phil Hartman occurred during the early morning hours of May 28, 1998. Hartman's wife, Brynn, was reportedly drunk and high and snuck into Hartman's bedroom shortly before 3 A.M. and shot her husband point blank, killing him immediately. In the weeks following his death, Hartman was celebrated in a wave of tributes.

Just a few months before his murder, Hartman's wife, Brynn, confessed that she was scared about being alone with the Hartman children while he was at movie and television sets. Hartman purchased two handguns, one for himself and one for his wife, as protection in case they needed it. I made the article so I think I know so just stop accusing people of crap. Dpm12 - December 13, 2010

Really? Well I wrote and spent months researching Phil Hartman's article, so I can clearly see that the vast majority of the article is copied directly from his page. I suggest you read the policy Copying within Wikipedia. As for your points quoted above, while they may not be lifted word for word, they are not new information. The only thing that is new, is about Phil purchasing two handguns because Brynn was scared. And I don't really think that is exactly crucial. Gran² 21:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• I agree with Gran that this article should be redirected back to Phil Hartman. It appears fairly obvious that this article was copied from that original page, as entire paragraphs are word-for-word the same as they were at that Hartman page. In fact, the very first edit that created this "Death of Phil Hartman" page seems to be little more a copy-and-paste from that page (with a few new sentences thrown in), complete with refs that were then orphaned because they were originally starter elsewhere on the Phil Hartman page (in other words, outside of the "death" section). This page offers nothing new and it's not at all constructive to simply create a redundant separate article. I also agree with Gran's arguments above for why the Lennon and Jackson articles are not comparable. — Hunter Kahn 22:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

• Agreed. I have redirected the article. Theleftorium ^(talk) 16:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)