Talk:Dead or Alive (band)

needs clarification

"Dead or Alive was founded in 1980 in Liverpool by Burns, who was encouraged by local music promoters to gather a band together based on his outrageous appearance. In 1980, after several line-up changes since the start of the year, and just before they were to record a radio session for John Peel, Burns changed the name of the band to Dead or Alive"

This seems to say that Burns changed the name from Dead or Alive to... Dead or Alive...? Wtf? I don't know the history of the band, came here to find it. Did this editor mean to say that D or A was a new name for Nightmare in Wax (mentioned in the previous paragraph?) Bustter (talk) 17:26, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

I think what it means is that he changed it from Nightmares in Wax to Dead or Alive. 47.214.9.131 (talk) 15:47, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

"Two years later they parted ways with SAW"

Who is SAW? SchmuckyTheCat 00:35, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Stock, Aitken and Waterman, but I can see how it would be confusing. Exploding Boy 01:04, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Wrong info

"In January 2006 Pete appeared on British TV in Celebrity Big Brother. Following a live performance of "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)" during the show, Dead Or Alive then went on to re-release the single the same month accompanied with an updated music video featuring original band members."

This video was made in 2003, before the appearance on Celebrity Big Brother, and was for the first re-release in 2003. Jamandell (d69) 15:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The chart information stating the rerelease also hit #5 on the US singles and #1 on the dance charts has no verifiable source.Jude86 15:46, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Whoever is doing the chart information needs to recheck their US facts. "Turn Around and Count 2 Ten" did not chart in the US, much less hit #40. Jude86 05:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Steve Coy's birth name is not "Steve McCoy". Coy is his actual surname. --GlynC 20:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The lead says they rose to fame in the 80's but according to the bio information the oldest of them was born in 1980. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.244.96.174 (talk) 02:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Regadring Trivia

The only thing Boy George and Pete Burns have incommon image wise is that they wear make-up... Pete's looks more angrogynous... Boy George's seems more "drag". - Deathrocker 11:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Pete's current look is the most feminine look he has donned yet. Nothing androgynous about it.Jude86 03:55, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

The Boy George comparison deserves mention here because it is referring to how the media originally cited Pete, which was an important aspect of the group's rise to fame. But maybe this needs to be made more clear. Also, the sales figures for Youthquake featured in this section (500,000) are contradictory to the sales designated in the discography section (4.2 million). Can someone please delete this or find the correct source. - User:Andiedottir 16:19, 06 October 2006 (GMT)

Meatspin.com

I think all references to this site should be removed. It is indecent and has no place here on Wikipedia (especially if minors are looking at this article).

• Oh, come on!! Are you serious? Gonzakun

Just because it is indecent doesn't mean it shouldn't be featured. If that principle was applied across wikipedia we wouldn't have any articles about autofellatio, shock sites, or masturbation. Triumph's Hour 04:44, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the way it is currently reference is acceptable. I remember deleting a link in the past because the author had written it in such a way as to lure the reader into clicking on the link without realising the content. As long as the article clearly states that it is a shock site, I don't see a problem. NadaPlissken 21:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

If the site (and thus the use of the music on the site) is notable, why is the site not mentioned anywhere else in Wikipedia? If it's not notable, why is it in this article? I'm not referring to a rule here, I'm asking honestly. --76.105.213.205 (talk) 06:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

In the absence of anything to suggest the site is notable, it has been removed. It really isn't relevant. If it's used in films or television that might be worth noting, but someone putting on a website isn't.--Michig (talk) 07:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Album sales figures

They need to be sourced. Are they verifiable and real or just plucked out of some fan's imagination?

Seriously. 30 mil albums and 28 mil singles? Sorry to any of you hardcore fans out there, but not a chance in hell they've hit those numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.73.84 (talk) 02:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Latest News

Should someone add the latest info about the lead singer's lawsuit concerning the botched lip implints? Link Kwyjibear 17:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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Band members

OK, three of the members are credited as being the main songwriter for the band. Which is correct - or did they all just contribute? Needs to be sorted out.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 12:36, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Continuous popularity?

"They are best known for their #1 UK hit single, "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)", and gained continuous popularity."

I like their (one) hit, but I'm pretty sure the general concensus is not that Dead or Alive has gained "continuous popularity".

As one-hit-wonders, it's true we'll never forget them, along with Dexy's Midnight Runners, Frankie Goes to Hollywood etc, but I'd like to see better phrasing.

Russella (talk) 01:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

You're right, the wording needs changing, though a band that had 9 top 40 hits isn't a one-hit wonder (and neither were Dexys - 9 top 40 hits, nor Frankie - 13 top 40 hits and 3 number ones).--Michig (talk) 07:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

The poster is no doubt American (where the groups mentioned were one hit wonders) who forgets that wikipedia is a global resource, not just one for America. Vauxhall1964 (talk) 11:15, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

"Turn Around and Count 2 Ten"

Where is the source for this? I'm trying to find the correct link but there used to be a reference suggesting the chart entries in Japan were much lower and there are two singles charts in Japan - International and General acts. Overseas acts in Japan tend to chart much higher on the International chart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.32.104.51 (talk) 23:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Progressive Rock

.....??? Jh39 (talk) 14:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

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Nightmares In Wax or Dead Or Alive?

I have corrected the text in this article to reflect the fact that the band founded in 1979 was called "Nightmares In Wax", and the name changed to Dead Or Alive in 1980. There were changes to the band's line-up in 1980 too, and more later, so it seems odd to infer that "Dead Or Alive" and "Nightmares In Wax" are one and the same. The article originally reflected the facts but was changed in January 2017 by user with I.P. address 2601:404:c802:7a60:fdce:8608:ec2a:ece1 - without explanation.

(Ethel D (talk) 02:00, 7 December 2017 (UTC))

Mike Percy & Tim Lever

Shouldn't there be some info about their post-DOA career as songwriters (links to S Club 7 etc) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.168.11 (talk) 11:05, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 11 July 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Dead or Alive (disambiguation) moved to Dead or Alive per the below discussion, there is a consensus against the move proposed by the initiator. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 20:24, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

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Dead or Alive (band) → Dead or Alive – swap pages. We currently have a confusing situation here where Dead or alive (sentence case) redirects to Wanted poster#Dead or alive (which I'm not challenging) but Dead or Alive (title case) redirects to Dead or Alive (band) (which it shouldn't because that would be an unnecessary disambiguation) with a disambiguation page at Dead or Alive (disambiguation). There a two choices: move the disambiguation page to the base name, which I don't recommend because I see the band as a primary topic, or swap the band article with the redirect, which I'm proposing here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:08, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

• Move Dead or Alive (disambiguation) to Dead or Alive. There are multiple major topics here: the wanted poster saying, the video game franchise, and (I guess) this English band? (It wins on pageviews vs. the vg franchise, but that's with the redirect pointing directly to it at the moment, so I'm not sold it's more notable.) I don't see a firm primary topic here among those 3 + the various other links on the DOA disambiguation page. SnowFire (talk) 15:02, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose and move the dab page instead per SnowFire. I've reverted the change of redirect of Dead or Alive as that was done last month without any discussion. --Gonnym (talk) 15:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

  That should not have been done in the middle of this discussion. It makes it much harder to follow. I've put it back pending the outcome here. Station1 (talk) 22:46, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

  I reverted it again. There was no consensus for the band being considered primary. That was just a recent undiscussed change. Making the talk page discussion easier to follow is not a good reason for keeping disputed content in mainspace. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:56, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

• Move DAB to base name no clear primary topic[[1]] given the several proper nouns and the generic use. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
• Move Dead or Alive (disambiguation) to Dead or Alive.per 3 editors above. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:15, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
• Move Dead or Alive (disambiguation) to Dead or Alive - band is not primary over so many alternatives. -- Netoholic @ 08:20, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support move Dead or Alive (band) to Dead or Alive - band will be most common article searched for. Wanted dead or alive will be primary search for Wanted poster rather than just "dead or alive". RandomIntrigue (talk) 22:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
• Move Dead or Alive (disambiguation) to Dead or Alive Clearly there are more names for the title than just the band. Accesscrawl (talk) 10:54, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

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