Talk:Dead Celebrities

Ricardo Montalban

He's right there, sitting in the first row.

Karine Ruby

I think gold metal winning snowboarder Karine Ruby who died in a fall from a mountain in May was among the the Celebrities. Thit story got a bit of news covrege when it happend. I need some conformation. DLA75 (talk) 07:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

No it wasn't. It was Natasha Richardson.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.233.225 (talk) 11:55, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Little Miss Sunshine and Toddlers and Tiaras

Is the beauty pagaent really a reference to them? Or just a jab at children's beauty pagaents in general? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.200.11 (talk) 02:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

It is just a jab at them in general. I will make ammendments immediately.

I concur, it is just a swipe at beauty pagents. Not a reference to little miss sunshine.--Tacit tatum (talk) 15:44, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

List of celebs

A simple list of celebs is trivia/plot reiteration. Is there no review online yet for it other than IGN? Alastairward (talk) 22:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree. A list of the dead celebrities on the plane would be good for the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.116.136 (talk) 14:05, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I think you would actually disagree with the OP ...it is indeed trivia when presented as a simple list, because the list has no content. It needs to be worked in with a "reception" section of sorts. - SoSaysChappy (talk) 03:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. The whole leitmotiv of the episode is centered around the celebrities. While in other cases a listing might not be awarded enough relevance to make it to the article, I believe that in this case a simple list, linking the celebs names to each respective Wikipedia article, just like what was posted, is completely pertinent. mentus (talk) 01:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

If a part of the plot is notable enough to have it's own section, it will likely be included in a critical review. In which case, it would form part of the cultural references. Alastairward (talk) 09:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

The list is clearly Trivia, and some of these alleged people on the list may come close to WP:NOR. I think it would be better to edit the list and move it to the plot, in order to simply mention some of the celebrities Ike sees, limiting it to ones who are either named or have dialogue. Something like "Ike has been seeing ghosts of recently deceased celebrities, such as Farrah Fawcett, David Carradine, Billy Mays, Ed McMahon and Walter Cronkite......The celebrities reveal they're trapped in Purgatory because Michael Jackson refuses to accept his death." And that's it. The rest don't have to be mentioned. Nightscream (talk) 18:29, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Tow gate

Sorry, but I don't understand what a 'tow gate' is. the like to airport gates doesn't help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.188.33.25 (talk) 21:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

It's a gate at an airport to which a large plane cannot taxi itself. A special vehicle has to tow the plane (after it has powered down after landing) to the gate because if the pilot steered there himself, the force from the engines would disrupt and pose a threat to whatever or whoever might be on the tarmac in the area. You're right about the disamb link not providing any information. It would also be difficult to re-word the plot summary to explain this, because in the show it was used metaphorically (to imply that the "passengers" would have to wait even longer before they can arrive in Hell; towing a plane to a gate can - depending on the circumstances - take a long time). Anyone have any ideas on how to handle this? - SoSaysChappy (talk) 00:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Former edits

in a previous edition of this article, i had read quotes from chipotle.....they were playful and amusing...something like "we appreciate south park's episode, but we can assure everyone that there is no evidence that chipotle causes anal leakage"......but now this note is gone.....is there a reason it was deleted? thanks 123.165.73.25 (talk) 13:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

• I haven't found any such quote in the edit history for this article. I don't recall it ever being there. If you can find it in the history, maybe we can figure out why it was removed, if it was. — Hunter Kahn 18:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: JulieSpaulding (talk) 10:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

There are a couple of issues I'd like to see fixed before I pass this article:

1. The third paragraph of the lead section uses the words 'some proponents'. I would classify this as a weasel word and would recommend that you avoid it.
   • Changed that (and the later reference) to "critics". Is that better? — Hunter Kahn 15:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

   Unfortunately, no. Weasel word states that 'critics' is a weasel word :( It says to specify exactly which critics say that particular thing (i.e. 'Critics claim' would change to 'Jane Doe of the Iqaluit Herald commented...'. JulieSpaulding (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

   • I just removed the part with the weasel word altogether. — Hunter Kahn 16:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

2. The plot isn't referenced. Not sure if this is an issue.
   • According to WP:TVMOS, it doesn't have to be. It says, "Plot summaries do not normally require citations; the television show itself is the source, as the accuracy of the plot description can be verified by watching the episode in question."

   Great. I'll know for next time. JulieSpaulding (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

3. The 'production' section is a little short. In other articles (such as Pee (South Park)) the production section is a lot longer.
   • Yeah, unfortunately, I find sometimes there is lots of production info available for a television episode and sometimes there is very little. Conversely, this article had lots of info on the theme, whereas others have little of that. I combined the "Production" and "Theme" sections into one section, which GAN reviews have sometimes suggested in the past to fix this. Does that address it? — Hunter Kahn 15:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

   Great :) JulieSpaulding (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

4. The link for TV-MA L leads to two different locations (first in the lead and secondly in the production section). I think these should be made consistent.
   • My mistake. Fixed.

   OK. JulieSpaulding (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

5. The word 'said' appears nine times in the Reception section. It would add 'spice' to the article to vary these a little ('commented', etc.).
   • Ok, done. — Hunter Kahn 15:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

   Much improved. JulieSpaulding (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd love to pass this article as soon as these issues are fixed. Thanks, JulieSpaulding (talk) 11:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Passed by JulieSpaulding (talk) on 16:32, 19 January 2010 (UTC).

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