Talk:Day's journey

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keep it Nasz 07:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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The walking merge. Why not a biking for day of fast jorney ?

to be clear NO. Do not merge. Let it stay. Art has a potential to grow up. Will be useful for wikilinking.

Nasz 14:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Something has to be notable to be kept - "potentially notable" is not acceptable - maybe it should be merged somewhere - assuming it can get some sourcesDaniel()Folsom |\^T/|\_C/|\^U/ 00:45, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I dont care. You want - you delete. But is always EZ to delete. N

Keep - but obviously needs improvement. It's hard to see why, if this is, Roman mile should not also be merged with walking. I'm sure the potential is there. Needs renaming, as current title is ungrammatical Johnbod 01:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Would anyone care to expand on the topic? How far could a person reasonably travel in one day in different eras? How far by horse, car, train, etc. [stageswords@att.net]

That would make a good article since all of that information is known

Keep in category cadence. In antiquity standards of a given distance expected to be covered in a given time were both common and precise being generally related to miles or stadia or subdivisions of a degree (111 km) of the earths surface.

The Roman mille passus, the Greek mia chillioi, were both thousands. Even though the units varied the subdivisions were arranged to come out at the same totals so that whether you counted in units of an hours river journey or a days sail, a days walk or a minute of march people knew what you meant; there would be a corresponding distance in minutes of a degree that could be covered in a day or an hour of timeRktect 13:39, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

The Day's March appears to have long had a precise value. This information was first presented in Elements of the March:

"The march cadence is fairly well established. The Roman militari gradu, regular march cadence, was 100 paces per minute, the quick march cadence was 120 paces per minute. The Roman foot was (0.9708 English foot). The pace was 2.5 Roman feet, (29.124"). According to Upton, this is almost exactly the same as the US Army standard at the turn of the century; its pace was (30"), the regular march cadence was 100 paces / minute and the quick march cadence was 120 paces per minute."

100 paces is 1/10 Roman mile and appears to be the same distance as the Egyptian itrw mentioned in the battle of Kadesh and discussed by Herodotus as the same as the measures used by the Greeks

Sailing Ships: "Lightning" (1854)1854 March 1: On the this day the Lightning sailed 436 miles, which is the longest day's run recorded by a sailing ship. March 1. — Wind S., strong gales; ... Days sail but in antiquity a days sail was taken as about a degree. Over time as ships got faster the reckoning of a days sail increased. Herodotus reckoned for his time 700 stadia as a normal day's sailing Rktect 20:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Good stuff - put it in (rewritten)! Johnbod 20:31, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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A shame that this page is such a stub. A day's journey is something completly different in mountanous terrain than on the plains. See roman charts as in Tabula Peutingeriana where (imho) a day's journey is clearly depicted. Aleichem (talk) 03:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

linkage of time and space

In 1593 Queen Elizabeth 1 signed off on a request to change the length of a furlong from the Greek (600 pous) and Roman 625 pes) length of 185 m to a new length of ten perch 660 feet. As a result the English mile became 5280 feet and where one degree of the Earths circumference at the Eguator had been 75 Roman miles or 111 km, it was now 69.17 miles. There were now officially twice as many seconds in a century as inches in the circumference of the Earth at the equator.

This wasn't new knowledge, it was perhaps most important in the way it affected definitions of property, taxes and tithes and the divine rights of kings to change them as needed in order to finance their wars. Science now usurped that privilege.

Now as a result of that navigation which had been reckoned in stadia,miles,leagues,knots, nautical miles and seconds or minutes of degrees, could now just be measured in seconds and minutes, hours and days. Previously the Egyptians had had a minute of march which was 300 Royal cubits or 157.5 meters to a stadia with 700 stadia to a degree. The Greeks and Romans had used 8 stadions of 185m to a mile and 600 stadions or 75 miles to a degree. The Persians had used 500 stadia of 222m to a degree, all with the same result.

Now all you needed to do was say a days journey was 24 hours x 60 minutes x 60 seconds. A century was 100 years of 365.34 days journey. The number of seconds was twice the distance in inches. The circumference of the earth was 24902.72727 miles making a degree 4382880" or 365,240 feet. A days march by the Roman reckoning would be about 25 mi and take 3 days to cover a degree of 75 mi a pace of a little over 1 mile an hour if you marched all day. To cover the same ground in 8 hours you needed to travel at 3 miles per hour. A days sail making 3 knots for 24 hours would cover one degree a day. Three miles per hour is 3000 paces her hour, or 250 feet per minute, 2 steps per second if one step is 2 feet. hup toup three four.142.0.102.234 (talk) 14:59, 31 May 2014 (UTC)