Talk:Dante's Satan

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Maybe this page should be merged into Inferno (Dante)? Radagast3 (talk) 01:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. This article is quite well written and stands up well as a subject on it's own. --Kurtle (talk) 23:36, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

did Dante's Satan influence Milton's in the sense of both being 'sympathetically' treated? I don't know enough to comment. --86.168.25.9 (talk) 11:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It says in this article that sinners in the 9th circle remaine unnamed. But in the main Wiki article on Dante's Inferno, it names a number of sinners in the 9th circle. Eg Mordred. 86.137.192.164 (talk) 12:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Satan

The english translation of the inferno i read used the name Dis (who is also Pluto the greco-roman god of the underworld) and not Satan. Dante re-interpreted many mythological figures; giving them a christian spin and put them in his Inferno. So even though Dante's Dis represents and was inspired by Lucifer and Satan he didn't actualy call him by that name in his poem.

Are you sure you remember this correctly? Because from what I know, Dante used the name "Dis" for a city in Hell. You know, the city that is filled with graves on fire, burning the sinners in them. Read more here. --Luka1184 (talk) 10:27, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I just checked. It seems like Vergil called Satan "Dis" to identify him with his domain, the city of Dis. He did however use the words "Ecco Ditte" to be exact, which means "This is Dis". Other names used for Satan includes Pluto, which is the name for the Greek god of the underworld, and coincidentially "Dis" also stems from Greek mythology, as it was another name for Pluto. Satan is also refered to as "Belzebub" in the poem, I believe. --Luka1184 (talk) 10:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

william blake a renaissance artist?

obvious nonsense--Mongreilf (talk) 22:52, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

My Mantra is I do know that I do not know ( plus: I do not reconsider )

Hammelburg 1989 highscore with an M42 (? check ( x ) Invented antitelephone in 1997 ( near a quarry, as in BTF3 ) ? check ( x ) what then? Every Blockbuster movie, known computer games since whenever before? It isn´t that the basic joke? Kriegsspiel. I knew in advance how it´d end up. Some call me Satan, some call me Ex3,14: I´ve been here before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0A:A540:C0A:0:25D8:AD83:A59F:4D60 (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Section referring to Isaiah

In this section in Isaiah, it's actually referring to the Babylonian king, taunting him after the fact. It's not a reference to Satan, but here, it's repeated uncritically. Clarifying language would be useful. Delukiel (talk) 02:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

(I don't think the clarifying language already there ("according to some interpretations") is good enough) Delukiel (talk) 02:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

@GuccizBud

Since you apparently find the scholarly interpretation of that section of Isaiah "completely perplexing," here's a direct tag to my issue with that language, and allow me to explain it to you. "Satan, the angel, was enamored of his own beauty, power, and pride, and attempted to usurp God's divine throne," which is currently there, has no Biblical support whatsoever. Satan's fall from Heaven is only barely supported (Luke 10:18 and Revelation 12:7 - 12:10). This line about Satan being enamored by his own beauty and pride is entirely post-Biblical, yet it's repeated as if it's in the Bible and that's what the verse from Isaiah means. "Lucifer" meaning the Devil didn't become Catholic doctrine until the 5th century, which is 700 years after Isaiah was likely written. This page should clear up your confusion. I'm of course entirely in favor of just rewriting the line to be clearer, or to make it more obvious that this isn't necessarily what that verse means, but I wanted thoughts from others before doing it myself—I hope that is not also perplexing to you. Delukiel (talk) 07:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Delukiel Fuck you. That's what your comment addressed specifically to me deserves. You won't be hearing from me again nor will I read anything you write to me. GuccizBud (talk) 07:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:Civility. Have a good night! Delukiel (talk) 07:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)