Talk:Dalkey Island
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Reference to Danti's map
editIn this article it is stated that Dalkey island appears in Danti's Map of the British Isles (Florence, ca. 1560). I'm writing from Florence right now, and I can attest that there's no Dalkey Island in that map. The eastern Irish islands that are drawn and named are (north to south): Rathlin Island, St. Patrick's Island, Lambay, Ireland's Eye. The Copeland Islands are drawn but not named. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.29.75.142 (talk) 11:50, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Untitled
editThis whole article sounds like it is based off John Givens book titled 'A Guide to Dublin Bay' which, in itself, is full of small errors that make it a believable read but inaccurate source of information.
I have never heard of Dalkey Sound being called the 'Dalkey Roads'. I am aware that ships anchored in the Sound in the middle ages and took their goods to the city by the actual Roads of Dalkey - but the sound being called thus? Never.
Nor have I ever heard, or read, of Maiden Rock being called 'Carraig' Rock and would be impressed with some source for that information.
There are no remains of 'houses' on Dalkey Island. There is the remains of a Military Battery on the island and whilst it was serving as a barracks, to term it a 'house' is way beyond the realms of believable.
The church on Dalkey island is given a grand total of 3 centuries worth of origins in the article. There is a church dedicated to Begnet on the mainland also - this one dates from around the 10th century but was rebuilt over the centuries. The one on Dalkey Island is older than the one on the mainland - dates from c.7th century and has also been rebuilt. The vikings used the island as a slave trading port true, but that the church was not in use has never been mentioned in any sources I have read. There is a record in the annals of the four masters that says that an archbishop was drowned in Dalkey sound whilst fleeing to or from the Island however -
Like I said at the start, this information all wafts of John Givens book which is sad to think is being used as a basis for any further account of the history of Dublin Bay seeing as it is full of holes as subtle as those I just mentioned.
I would edit the main article to correct what it is written there but would rather it be discussed before any editing was to happen as I am more than happy to admit that I have erred myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.2.175.189 (talk • contribs) 12:34, January 9, 2007
- I'd be happy if you were to update the article. As it is there are no references so if you can improve the content then go for it. --Albert.white 19:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
tunnel
editThere's a tunnel to the island from the local school convent, its blocked up though —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.125.110.52 (talk) 16:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC).
- Is this verifiable? I never heard of any tunnel in 40 years of knowing Dalkey and its surroundings. ww2censor 17:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've never found it despite a lot of looking as a kid! The rumour when I was in school in Harold Boys was that the British had a tunnel from the island to somewhere in what's now the Loretto convent. --Albert.white 19:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- There is a heritage centre in Dalkey and I know that one of the people who gives tours/talks has quite some knowledge of the area. Maybe call them and see if you can talk to John Coyle. He might be able to give you some guidance on aspects like this of the island. ww2censor 21:18, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- I've never found it despite a lot of looking as a kid! The rumour when I was in school in Harold Boys was that the British had a tunnel from the island to somewhere in what's now the Loretto convent. --Albert.white 19:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a tunnel between the Convent and the sea, which I have seen, and which was apparently used by the local underclass of the past so that the aristocracy wouldn't have to see them. There is a similar earthwork (a trench) in front of Powerscourt House, for similar purposes. However I have never heard of the tunnel extending to Dalkey Island and would be surprised - Dalkey sound is quite deep.--Squike 07:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Thorn or Thorny
editWhat does Dalkey mean Thorn Island[1] or Thorny Island[2]? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msnake (talk • contribs) 14:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- No difference, see Delgany for similar derivation from Irish. Suckindiesel (talk) 16:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Oil
editOil has been found in the waters surrounding Dalkey Island and may well prove to be Ireland's first offshore discovery of significance. Drilling is due to start in 2012 and the potential state revenue generated from the Tax of the oil is significant. The Dalkey Island prospect is located in the Kish Bank Basin, unlike other more difficult deep sea basins on the West coast, offshore eastern Ireland in 82 feet (25 meters) of water. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.79.90.55 (talk) 15:41, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- They are only looking. Nevertheless this should be in the article with a cite such as [3] Lugnad (talk) 11:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Ownership?
editWho owns this island? 79.97.154.238 (talk) 23:56, 14 September 2012 (UTC)