Talk:Dales pony/GA1

GA Review

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Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch Reviewer: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs) 06:19, 12 May 2014 (UTC) I propose to take on this review and will make some preliminary comments soon. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 12 May 2014 (UTC) First reading This looks a well written and researched article, but I notice a few minor problems. I think the lead should stick to the singular or the plural when referring to the pony and not mix up the two. "almost went extinct" - I much prefer "almost became extinct". "... but still-low population numbers ..." - I'm not too keen on "still-low". I don't see a problem with it, but if you have an alternate suggestion, I'm willing to listen. Dana boomer (talk) 11:54, 13 May 2014 (UTC) How about "Today it is used for many different activities, but population numbers are still low and this has led ..." Changed. Dana boomer (talk) 00:03, 14 May 2014 (UTC) "They should move ..." - Grammatically speaking, "they" here refers to the hind legs, the subject of the previous sentence! "... the Dales had great success in trotting races of the 18th century and organized hunts." - It sounds as if the ponies are organising the hunts! Knowing how smart those UK pony breeds can be, it's not impossible, actually!  ;-) --MTBW " to the point that " - This phrase appears twice in two adjoining sentences. That's all for the moment. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:42, 12 May 2014 (UTC) Thanks for the review. I think I have addressed everything you mentioned, except one point where I replied above. Let me know if there is anything I missed or anything further you see. Dana boomer (talk) 11:54, 13 May 2014 (UTC) It's looking good. I have made one suggestion above. Your first image represents a somewhat poor example of the breed doesn't it, what with its size, white muzzle and blaze (or isn't that a blaze?) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2014 (UTC) (talk page stalker)That horse in the lead image has only a star and a snip; pretty big ones and they are kind of "dribbling" but they don't connect, maybe a bit onthe flashy side for the registry, but legal. He's also got decent conformation and you can see his head and expression. I looked at what else is out there at Commons, and most of the other images not already used in the article are either poor quality exposure and/or horses that are quite dirty, unkempt, and look kind of crappy. File:Dales Pony Mare & Foal at the Dales Pony Society Breed Show.jpg is the only other image that is remotely suitable for the lead, and IMHO it has the problem of the ribbon covering the horse's eyes, plus it's got a distracting background and the foal is cute, but also covers up the mare. And the foal has a big star on its forehead anyway. Dana can do as she sees fit here, as this is her GA, but thought I'd pop by on behalf of being another member of WikiProject Equine and say that I think it's OK. (FYI, check out horse markings for more info). Montanabw(talk) 22:23, 13 May 2014 (UTC) Yup, I was going to say the same thing about the lead images coloration - it's not a blaze or a white muzzle, just a (slightly oversized) star and snip. Not sure what the issue is with size? It's hard to tell with no size references, but the horse could definitely be 14-14.2 hands. And the rest of the images on Commons are quite poor, for the various reasons that Montanabw described above. Dana boomer (talk) 00:03, 14 May 2014 (UTC) I don't know my "star and snip" from my "blaze" and it was a passing comment on the image rather than a problem. The image I like is the shaggy pony on the fells, but it is not really suited to be a lead image. I'll have another read through the article shortly. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC) GA Criteria 1a The article is well written 1b The article conforms with the MOS guidelines with regard to layout and style. 2a&b The article is well referenced and has inline citations for all contentious statements. 2c There is no original research as far as I can see. 3a&b The coverage is broad enough and the article does not include irrelevant material. 4 The article is neutral 5 The article has been worked on by the nominator since March 2014 and is stable. 6 The images are appropriately licensed. 7 The images are relevant to the topic and have suitable captions. Overall assessment - Pass.