Talk:Dahmash

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Tzafrir in topic Secondary sourses


Secondary sourses edit

I started researching this topic for the Hebrew Wikipedia. I urge all editors to check what all various sources rely on. The extra source I just added (a meeting of a Knesset committe) is sadly in Hebrew, but I used it as in it both sides (e.g. also MK Sarsur) agreed on the fact I got from it. Yet, you see many on-line sources happily declare that people resided there since 1949.

In fact, the two houses were there since before 1949. The land was given to the current owners on 1951 as an agricultural land (not for residentual use. Those are two different things. You have to go through many a commitees to get your agricultural land approved for residentual use). It's still not clear to me if people actually lived there (I'm still trying to get an interview with one of the residents. I couldn't find any decent source about it). Tzafrir (talk) 06:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Middle East Eye article edit

Let's take, for example, the first source used, article from Middle East Eye. Some issues with the article:

  • "According to Israel’s official records, the 600 inhabitants of Dahmash village live a single building" - false. The "village" is built on agricultural lands. In such lands you're not permitted to build any permanent buildings. You are permitted to build shacks for argricultural tools. However by the time this article was written, Israeli courts have already granted Dahamash residents partial recognition.
  • They are not "trapped between Lod and Ramle". They are in the outskirts of Lod and not far from Ramle. Formally they are part of the local regional council. To the north there are some local villages.
  • Industrial parks, shopping malls and all the rest popped up all around them with proper permits. It may take several years to get such a permit.
  • "Now, unless we can stop them, the authorities will wipe our real homes off the map too" - actually the authorities turned a blind eye to this illegal building for years.
  • There are large Arab populations in the Center - in Ramle and Lod, but also Jaffa, and the cities of Tayibe and Qalansawe.
  • "If Zionism was to exist, Lydda could not exist" - well, both Israel and Lod exist.
  • The current residents of the village come originally from various parts of Israel, including, in parts, from Beduin in the Negev.

And that's only half-way through the article. Tzafrir (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2015 (UTC)Reply