Talk:Custom house/Archive 1
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Photo of Sydney's Customs House
I have an alternative image for Sydney's Customs House (see right). enochlau (talk) 12:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Gallery
I understand that the policy discourage Photo Galleries. However in this case I believe it is appropriate because this article is a general article about custom houses. By looking at the gallery users could then visually identify a specific building they want to know more about. --Pinnecco (talk) 13:47, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
- Then we should create a chart of notable custom houses (i.e. have their own wikipedia article), that contains the name, the location, the year built, some general facts and an image, which actually is far more helpful to the reader and gives them a much better sense of what they might want to read more about. The current gallery really offers nothing, just a random selection of images with no information. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:10, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved. It seems agreed that this article is and should be about the buildings in general rather than the title given to some buildings. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 06:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Per WP:CAPS ("Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization") and WP:TITLE, this is a generic, common term, not a propriety or commercial term, so the article title should be downcased. Lowercase will match the formatting of related article titles. Tony (talk) 04:21, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Comment shouldn't it be customs house ? 70.49.126.190 (talk) 07:22, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- The former Custom House in the City of London has had the name Custom House since the late 14th century. There are other examples with this name throughout the former British Empire which probably follow the London example, including for example Dublin and Montreal. There are pictures of other examples which clearly have the name in the singular (Bristol, Maine) in the gallery. I don't see a strong argument for a move. Pterre (talk) 09:55, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Anon, good point, and the article opens with an inescapable generic angle. This, then, is the theme, the topic. It should not be upcased. Either the article should be about customs houses in general (with plural) or it should be about the title "Custom House" that has been given to a limited number of buildings. Could we sort out whether two articles are required, or whether the lead needs to be de-genericised to make the current title work? Tony (talk) 10:46, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well not that limited - we also have (for example) Custom House, London in the Royal Docks (not forgetting Custom House station), Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House in Manhattan, Boston Custom House in Boston, Mass., Old Customhouse (Monterey, California), etc. I'm sure we could find many others if we cared to look. This is simply a (probably older) variant of Customs House. Pterre (talk) 11:22, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- So do you think the opening sentence should be recast so the theme isn't misleading? If so, I could have a try at it, and you could review it ...? Tony (talk) 11:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Back up for a second. Do we actually need a "Custom House" article that deals exclusively with buildings that bear that name? Would it add anything that a generic "Custom house" or "Customs house" article would not, other than "here are some examples of custom houses that go by the name Custom House"? Is a "Custom House" meaningfully different from a "custom house", such that the title could not be addressed in the generic article? --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- No, I don't believe we do. I don't see much wrong with the article as it stands, moved (if policy insists) to Custom house (lower case), with a redirect from Customs H/house (plural and lower case). Any notable examples probably already have their own article, named appropriately as singular or plural. Pterre (talk) 17:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, Pterre. I support the move, as requested. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:28, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- No, I don't believe we do. I don't see much wrong with the article as it stands, moved (if policy insists) to Custom house (lower case), with a redirect from Customs H/house (plural and lower case). Any notable examples probably already have their own article, named appropriately as singular or plural. Pterre (talk) 17:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Back up for a second. Do we actually need a "Custom House" article that deals exclusively with buildings that bear that name? Would it add anything that a generic "Custom house" or "Customs house" article would not, other than "here are some examples of custom houses that go by the name Custom House"? Is a "Custom House" meaningfully different from a "custom house", such that the title could not be addressed in the generic article? --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- So do you think the opening sentence should be recast so the theme isn't misleading? If so, I could have a try at it, and you could review it ...? Tony (talk) 11:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well not that limited - we also have (for example) Custom House, London in the Royal Docks (not forgetting Custom House station), Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House in Manhattan, Boston Custom House in Boston, Mass., Old Customhouse (Monterey, California), etc. I'm sure we could find many others if we cared to look. This is simply a (probably older) variant of Customs House. Pterre (talk) 11:22, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Anon, good point, and the article opens with an inescapable generic angle. This, then, is the theme, the topic. It should not be upcased. Either the article should be about customs houses in general (with plural) or it should be about the title "Custom House" that has been given to a limited number of buildings. Could we sort out whether two articles are required, or whether the lead needs to be de-genericised to make the current title work? Tony (talk) 10:46, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
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