Talk:Cultural marxism
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 29 December 2014. The result of the discussion was Delete and redirect. |
Commentary after deletion
editHave found today that the major article Cultural Marxism had been redirected to a Conspiracy Theory subsection of the Frankfurt School article. I can only believe it to be a prank, since this article is/was substantial and it no longer has a talk page to view discussion. I have today, undone the redirect, and pasted the bulk of the text from an archived version and I will be rebuilding the links and references and citations. I have added more scholarly cites researched from scholar.google.com (google's scholarly publication search engine that returns vetted published results only). IF this was not done as a prank, and you wish to dispute the undo of the redirect, please cite the scholarly sources that demonstrate the theory of Cultural Marxism is not a subject of scholarly study, that it is not subtheory of Marxism, and that it is entirely a minor conspiracy theory based on the Frankfurt School, and that a conspiracy theory is its only meaning. Awolnetdiva (talk) 07:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Actually there was an AfD on the topic, and as it was a controversial deletion/redirect, three WP:UNINVOLVED admins were called on to decide what the consensus was. Their discussion can be found here, and part of the decision was to WP:SALT the previous article (the one you've now set your sights on recreating... and I suspect you've gotten around that WP:SALT by using Cultural marxism (lower case) as the page title rather than Cultural Marxism (upper case).
- Also, asking people to prove a negative is kinda ridiculous on your part. You probably won't find any sources saying there are no dogs on the moon - that doesn't mean there are dogs on the moon. Whilst Cultural Marxism is a phrase that came up in academia in the 1960s and 70s, it was never well defined enough to be studied academically in of it's self. This was discussed during the AfD on the subject, for this reason the academic usage of the word does not pass WP:NOTABILITY, and the Right-Wing conspiracy usage of the word has been deemed WP:FRINGE and folded into the Frankfurt School page as a section there in. --Jobrot (talk) 11:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Stop using wikipedia. I came here today to check on this article as I just heard about what happened. Boycott the leftist propaganda site and never look back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.34.41.50 (talk) 16:20, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because a philosophical view cannot be simply discarded as A CONSPIRACY THEORY because you disagree with it --124.184.252.178 (talk) 14:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Trouble finding previous discussions
editI have a request for links to previous AfD discussions on this topic. I found one. Does anyone know where the others might be? They should be included in the AfD template on this talk page. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Disgraceful deletion
editThe blatantly partisan deletion/redirect of this article is an absolute disgrace. Very, very sad to see Wikipedia so open to influence and large scale vandalism by biased editors.
Protected edit request on 1 September 2016
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I'd like to change this page into a disambiguation page between 1) the Frankfurt School#Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory (also known as The Frankfurt School conspiracy theory) and 2) a new page which is not yet in place, but would be located at Cultural Marxism (cultural studies) and would display the contents of a draft which is currently located in my user space at User:Jobrot/sandbox/Cultural_Marxism_(culture_studies). --Jobrot (talk) 05:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Jobrot (talk) 05:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- Which of these would be the primary topic? Per WP:2DABS, it is not normally appropriate to have a dab page with just two entries. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, never mind, I've since realized that all I've produced with my draft is a WP:COATRACK of The Frankfurt School, The Birmingham School, Cultural Studies and related thinkers. I highly suspect Cultural Marxism was just an early term for Cultural Studies (as Critical Marxism appears to be for Critical Theory)... so I'm dropping the edit request. Thanks for your reply, and again sorry for wasting your time. --Jobrot (talk) 08:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Edit request: redirect target
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The target of the redirect here should be changed to the recently split off Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory page. RGloucester — ☎ 14:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Protected edit request on 13 June 2021
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Please add the following tag(s):
{{Redirect category shell| {{R from short name}} }}
Thank you. Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:51, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Inappropriate Deletion
edit"Cultural Marxism" is a century-old concept that is widely identifiable and recognizable. It is found widely in academic literature and popular literature. It is a key part of the anglosphere zeitgeist and interacts with many adjacent social and political phenomena. Redirecting this page, about a real and influential thing, to a page denying its existence (60 years of clear and widespread literature is a conspiracy theory!) hurts the quality of this web site and speaks poorly of the quality of administrators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.10.46.96 (talk) 21:38, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Bigfoot" is a century-old concept that is widely identifiable and recognizable. It is found widely in academic literature and popular literature. It is a key part of the anglosphere zeitgeist and interacts with many adjacent social and political phenomena. That does not mean it is real. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 06:31, 30 July 2022 (UTC)