Talk:Cue sports/Archive 3

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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

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Additional general comments

Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hey, Michael here

I added the first attempt at an actual article, and then did some follow up work. A lot has been added since then. But I see a few issues:

The references seem to have issues. I need to double check the text against the references for one thing. I used a few classic works, such as Pool, by Mike Shamos (arguably one of the most famous US pool/billiard historians, and the Billiard Encylopedia, a massive work with a very carefully researched introduction to the history of the game.
The section on billiard enthusiasts seems awkward, and maybe needs to be an article of its own
I moved the lengthy section on shooting techniques, but its probably hard to find now
Intro needs work as I mentioned above (but forgot to sign it.)

I am willing to help, if I can. I am not a great writer or organizer, so I will defer to others

MichaelJHuman 05:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

English billiards

Latest comment: 17 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Resolved

– Needed material added

In the section providing summaries of, and {{Main}} links to the main articles of, various games, I believe that English billiards, as Carlos Reyna suggested, needs to have a section in there. Anyone feel like taking that on? It could even be a single paragraph, describing the nature of the game, and a bit about international competition, but waning popularity with the rise of snooker. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 21:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

Done. A little rough but should be enough to work with.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Need assistance

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Resolved

– Wrong venue.

--71.74.75.87 22:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC)--22:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC)71.74.75.87Just set up 7ft pool table for kids. I need a method on making the table even, Nellslady@Yahoo.com

Wikipedia is not an advice forum, though there are several of those related to billiards around out there on the web. Or call your local pool table dealer. The simplest method of levelling is to use a level (the tool, I mean) to figure out where the problem is and then put shims of some kind under the leg that is low. Hope that helps. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 05:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)