Talk:Cryptology

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Elassint in topic Contested deletion

Perhaps the list of cryptographers should be put on a time-line? The Anome


Shannon's papers are dated 1948 (A Mathematical Theory of communication) and 1949 (Communication Theory of Secrecy Systems). Actually the papers were *written* much earlier in WW2, but they were classified. The rumor is that after an act that enables them to be published, Shannon quickly published them before they were reclassified.

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These comments appear to belong to article cryptography from some years ago. They should be moved to that article.

In addition, the crypto corner has taken the position that cryptography is the highest level classification and that cryptology is essentially a synonym. See cryptography#terminology, talk;cryptography, archived, and the discussions at talk:marion Rejewski, and Talk:Wikiproject cryptography. This decision was originally taken to avoid competitve, confusing, and duplicative article trees. And, of course, reader confusion.

Accordingly, this article should actually be a redirect to cryptography. Perhaps after being moved to Wikitionary (with the addition that the two terms are often used as synonyms, as for instance on en.Wikipedia.org. Reactions? I will try to remember to post it to admin requests in the next few days. ww 05:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

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Contested deletion

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This page should not be speedily deleted because of its historical value. I'm going to revert to its first edit and article creation, by Larry Sanger in October of 2001. It's not exactly the same topic, and it looks interesting and a relic of how spacing was used back in the day. Check out the links, how many important topics were already covered by October. Can we freeze it and store it someplace for posterity? Randy Kryn (talk) 00:32, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

This predates draft space so draft is the wrong place for it. Legacypac (talk) 01:07, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
It may be the perfect place. I don't think Wikipedia has a visible space archives for historical pieces (or does it, probably a category?), and keeping it in draft somewhere would keep it from being edited - or it can just be frozen. Good find. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:11, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
It was a redirect in mainspace before the page was hijacked for the non-notable band. How about restoring back to mainspace as a redirect and page protecting. Add a link to the first version here. Legacypac (talk) 01:14, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
If that works. I'll keep this one watchlisted. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
As long as it exists in Draft space it will come up for possible G13 deletion every six months. There is even a bot that G13 nominates. Legacypac (talk) 01:41, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Maybe Sanger can include it as a user page, or some other idea. Probably worth taking to one of the WP talk pages to get input. As a historian I see these type of things as archive-worthy, but to what electronic in-house archive? Randy Kryn (talk) 13:56, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

What about the Nostalgia Wikipedia, which already hosts Sanger's old version of this page? In my view, that should be satisfactory for an electronic in-house archive. I think this revision of the page should be restored and moved back to mainspace. Elassint Hi 03:11, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Whatever makes you happy Legacypac (talk) 03:14, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Unless there are disagreements regarding my submission at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests, then this page should be copied and pasted at (or otherwise merged with) Talk:Cryptology. Elassint Hi 04:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Reply