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'Contract Killing' edit
The Guardian 'article' (actually liveblog) does not say that it was a contract killing, it only relays that the Soviet/Russian official propaganda mouthpiece TASS (obviously the completely opposite of anything approaching a reliable source) says it is. This should be removed from the infobox immediately as it is spreading Kremlin propaganda and disinformation. 2404:4408:6A65:E000:309A:3E46:4B64:391D (talk) 20:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Some Russian language sources do say that Tajiks (who have been arrested) were paid to do their job. This is not consistent with the terrorist nature of the attack, but I would rather keep it. My very best wishes (talk) 00:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- These motives are not mutually exclusive because they could've been hired by ISIS-K as its pawns. Therefore it's 'Islamic extremism' for those who organized the attack and 'contract killing' for the actual perpetrators. 93.81.37.232 (talk) 05:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, indeed. The problem is actually different. None of these 4 guys had military experience, while the attackers on videos behaved as special forces, quickly moving in pairs, skillfully shooting at people without any hesitation, etc., as a number of commenters noted. My very best wishes (talk) 15:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is speculation. We don't use speculation on Wikipedia. BeŻet (talk) 11:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- There are at least two videos in which Tajiks admit to committing murders for money. If don't like the Guardian, I can find plenty of other media outlets to back it up Ucraniano2 (talk) 08:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Plz do.
- I find British media to be awry at times. 109.252.71.81 (talk) 19:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are at least two videos in which Tajiks admit to committing murders for money. If don't like the Guardian, I can find plenty of other media outlets to back it up Ucraniano2 (talk) 08:57, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is speculation. We don't use speculation on Wikipedia. BeŻet (talk) 11:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Similar examples contemporaries.
- Yes, indeed. The problem is actually different. None of these 4 guys had military experience, while the attackers on videos behaved as special forces, quickly moving in pairs, skillfully shooting at people without any hesitation, etc., as a number of commenters noted. My very best wishes (talk) 15:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- For example . Target "Kogalym- Air". Above the Sinai Peninsula.Kardantschik (talk) 11:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Burisma edit
Please up date and add:
On 9. April 2024 the Investigative Committee opened a criminal case on the suspected involvement of Western officials in terrorism financing by senior officials of the United States and NATO countries. The Investigative Committee announced it found that funds received through commercial organizations, in particular, the Ukrainian-based oil and gas company Burisma, have been used to carry out terrorist acts.
Sources:
- https://www.barrons.com/news/russia-opens-financing-terrorism-probe-implicating-western-countries-57ed6aa2
- https://kyivindependent.com/russia-announces-investigation-into-ukrainian-company-burisma-linked-to-bidens-son-for-financing-terrorism/
- https://tass.com/politics/1772727
- https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-burisma-terror-financing/32898922.html
93.211.215.49 (talk) 13:43, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is this investigation tied to the Crocus City Hall attack directly? 2 of the articles mention the attack in passing but this Investigation Committee don't seem to describe that their investigation is tied to the attack. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 02:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
I feel this sources are not enough to make this conclusion. This is so contested that all kind of sources can be found. At best we can report of what is "claimed", just as a report as it's indeed claimed. Bilseric (talk) 23:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Weapon edit
Please indicate which weapon the attackers used. The information is publicly available:
- the Soviet AK-74 (1974–present),
- the Russian AK-74M (1991–present),
- the Russian AK-12 (2018–present), which the Russian military sells on the black market for $300
https://www.currenttime.tv/a/napadavshie-na-krokus-strelyali-v-lyudey-iz-shtatnogo-oruzhiya-rossiyskih-voennyh-kak-ono-k-nim-popalo/32909117.html 91.210.248.218 (talk) 20:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)