Talk:Conifer, Colorado

NPOV Discussion

New to the NPOV tags so put this one up to discussion. Problems I have with this article stem from this entry:

Until recently, mostly local businesses were "mom and pop" stores, such as Aspen Park Drug. But within the last year construction on a new King Soopers was completed, along with the completion of a Wendy's, QDoba, and a Quiznos. Recent construction is bringing a new Safeway across Highway 285 from where the current one sits. The developments have forced some long established local businesses to close. These projects have been a source of controversy in the community, with some people wanting the conveniences of a more urban lifestyle while others wish to preserve the unique rural character traditionally found in Conifer. Most mountain area residents who prefer a more urban lifestyle choose to live in the nearby community of Evergreen. The struggle between the two views of development have played out over 20 years in the community, most notably in the battles over various versions of a proposed recreation district. All four recreation district proposals have been defeated by popular vote, suggesting that most residents still prefer the unique rural character over urban convenience.

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Where to start? I think it is definitely anti-growth and in some places just plain wrong. I'd like to add more by my time is limited. -- EnsRedShirt 05:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

The NPOV guidelines instruct NOT to raise the NPOV flag until AFTER the topic has been discussed.

I was looking to add/paraphrase this (found from http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/colorado/history.php): "A minor but alarming earthquake occurred in the north-central part of Colorado on November 1, 1981, at 8:03 p.m. MST. The magnitude 3.1 tremor was centered in the Evergreen area about 22 miles southwest of Denver. The effects registered MM V, and were experienced in the Conifer, Evergreen, and Pine Junction areas. It was also felt in other parts of Jefferson County and in parts of Clear Creek and Park Counties." -- 67.102.42.149 22:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Aside from this "talk" page, the real 'Conifer' page is now locked. For how long?! -- 67.102.42.149 22:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Back to the NPOV discussion, I find the article to be very fair and without opinion. What is it exactly that you find biased and without a basis in fact? The only thing I would change would be to replace the word 'recently' with an actual time period. -- 67.102.42.149 20:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The Entire Paragraph above is anti-growth and not NPOV! I don't know of any local business that was forced to close. Aspen Park Drug closed due to not paying taxes. It's BS from the anti-growth crowd. When I find the time I will rewrite it, but until then people need to know it is NOT NPOV. And until you come out from hiding behind an IP address, I can't take any of your comments seriously. -- EnsRedShirt 06:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

ERS, I agree that the passage you quoted is NPOV. I added some wiki-format indentation and timestamps to this discussion to make the exchanges clearer and added some content to the article to fill it out. Eventually the the disputed content will fade as it's replaced with more neutral, well-cited information on the area's growth. Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia. --Oddharmonic 07:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I've been meaning to do a rewrite for sometime.. It just keeps getting pushed down the to do list..EnsRedShirt 07:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

One man's "anti-growth" is another man's "anti-sprawl" and "anti-eyesores". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Heptapod (talk • contribs) 04:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC).

Wikipedia should be neither anti- or pro- anything. It should show a neutral point of view on the topics it covers. EnsRedShirt

Free advertising?

Just happened on this page doing some Conifer historical research. I am a Conifer resident and grew up in the area.

First impression: I don't need to know Mary Cheney does/did live here. She's only famous as a child of a famous man. Her inclusion here struck me as trashy.

The other disagreement I have is with naming some of the new chain restaurants opening here... they may come and go as restaurants do and really have nothing to do with the community itself. They are the same chain restaurants you'd find anyplace.

And mentioning an unsolved murder in Aspen Park? C'mon guys, what town DOESN'T have one? Why include that downer at all?

You could mention growth with its concomitant issues (which are universal) without focusing on specific identities and events.

There's quite a bit of history here, and postive currents which would be a better use of your space, IMHO.

I also noticed some typos :-( 207.69.139.7 03:20, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Landmarks

My family has been in the Conifer area for 23 years. I definitely know about Long Brothers' Garage but I don't think it is significant enough to be a landmark. Any objections to removal? The Myers Ranch, Yellow Barn and Coney Island (formerly) are definitely the big two of the area. I think the Flying J Ranch is probably more noteworthy than Long Brothers' Garage.

trivia section

I have 2 concerns with the trivia section of this article. The first is the mention of a 3.1 tremor. Is it really that important to mention? Also, Trey Parker is listed twice, in the South Park section as well as under "Notable People". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.138.126 (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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