Talk:Congregation of the Servants of the Paraclete

CorenBot seems to have mistakenly detected a copyright infringement

I don't see the alleged copyright infringement. I will fix it if it is pointed out to me. Most of this article actually came from Gerald Fitzgerald (priest). --Richard S (talk) 05:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Either way we may check and correct the issue. Admins do not delete the page. Kasaalan (talk) 13:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

←Undoubtedly, CorenSearchBot picked up duplicated text such as the following:

While working as a Holy Cross priest, Father Gerald Fitzgerald developed a vision of a religious community whose mission would be to serve the needs of other priests and religious persons experiencing difficulties in their lives and ministry.

The source says:

While working as a Holy Cross priest, Father Fitzgerald developed a vision of a religious community whose mission would be to serve the needs of other priests and religious experiencing difficulties in their lives and ministry.

Unless that website copied that text from Gerald Fitzgerald (priest), such material constitutes an unusably close paraphrase. It is possible that it entered Gerald Fitzgerald (priest) as a copyright violation that was not detected. I'll evaluate to see how extensive concerns may be here and in that article. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

They had it first. It archives there to 2007 ([1]). It was not pasted onto Wikipedia until 2009. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:23, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

While the other article was founded as a copyright infringement on several sources, I believe that may be the only text remaining. It has been replaced. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:35, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

coverup

The files also suggested that the attempts to protect abusers from law enforcement extended beyond the L.A. archdiocese to a Catholic order tasked with rehabilitating abusers.

"Once more, we ask you to PLEASE DESTROY THESE PAGES AND ANY OTHER MATERIAL YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM US," the acting director of the order's treatment program wrote to Mahony in 1988 in a letter detailing therapists' reports about a prolific molester. "This is stated for your own and our legal protection."

The order, the Servants of the Paraclete, closed the New Mexico facility where many Los Angeles priests were sent amid a flood of lawsuits in the mid-1990s. A lawyer for the order declined to comment, but indicated in a 2011 civil court filing that all treatment records were destroyed. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/priest-files-reveal-distrubing-stories-of-child-molestation-coverup.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.186.16.120 (talk) 17:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Father Fitzgerald did support psychological treatment

From the entry: "Fitzgerald believed in spiritual treatment, such as Eucharistic adoration, and was vehemently against psychological treatment"

My father was a psychiatrist employed by Father Fitzgerald from about 1962-1968. At first my dad drove to Via Coeli once a week to see priest patients. He usually stayed there one or two days and then drove back to Albuquerque where my family lived but later we moved to a house owned by the Paracletes just outside Jemez Springs where we stayed for 2.5 years (1963-1965) while my dad saw patients. It could be that later Father Fitzgerald decided against psychotherapy and medication but he was for them for at least six years. I think this section of the entry needs to be changed. Risssa (talk) 22:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

It is worth adding to this point that it is wrong to suggest rejecting Alcoholics Anonymous equates to a rejection of psychological treatments (whatever this might mean). AA was originally open only to Christians. Its twelve-step programme requires that the addict 'believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity' (step 2) and 'turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him' (step 3). While AA is no longer restricted to Christians, the wording of the twelve steps having been amended to open it up to members of other religions, it does require the addict become religious. Stephen Newton (talk) 14:27, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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