Talk:Comparison of online dating services
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editShouldn't Tagged be on here? A lot of people use it for dating. Synergee (talk) 05:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- Nobody seems to object so I can add.Synergee (talk) 08:01, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
add SilverDaddies.com WeHoDavid (talk) 20:08, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- We only add entries here that have a Wikipedia article. If you believe the service is notable, write the article and then ask for it to be added here. GermanJoe (talk) 20:48, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
What is the logic behind requiring a Wikipedia article for a dating site? Some sites simply don't have a Wikipedia article but service millions of users. Upon reviewing this list, at least 10 of the sites that I use daily are missing. This contributes significantly to the impression that this is so terribly incomplete that it is not even worth adding. It would take me a month to add individual Wikipedia articles for every site and then I'd probably get flagged because in addition to a Wikipedia article, your gonna want 6 months before it can be validated. If I see 10 sites that I use daily and only one or two sites on here that I have ever heard of, this page is not dynamic nor does it encourage adding to. In short, the requirements make it useless as a reference, the table is entirely incomplete and it devalues Wikipedia in general.-jase (talk) 15:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- The restriction aims to prevent editors with a conflict of interest to promote their companies and products here, and to avoid bloating such lists with lots of minor sites. If an entry is truely "notable" (in Wikipedia's sense of the term), it shouldn't be too difficult to write an article about it first with 2-3 independent in-depth sources. If it's not "notable", it doesn't belong here - Wikipedia is not meant as a comprehensive product directory or free PR platform. If you have further general questions about Wikipedia, WP:Teahouse is a good forum to get help with anything Wikipedia-related. GermanJoe (talk) 16:21, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- This is a complete obfuscation of the question, and pointless wikilawyering. There is no Wikipedia rule that lists must contain strictly bluelinked articles, nor is there any precedent for that. There is similarly no rule that someone has to write an article to include it on a list. -2600:1700:2660:FDF:F438:BD65:B424:55 (talk) 19:18, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Lists and comparisons establish inclusion criteria, and 'has an existing article' is the one of the most common ones, and the one this list uses. MrOllie (talk) 19:23, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Says who? The list? You have no more right than any other editor to set those criteria. This article is missing a lot of very popular sites that nobody has bothered to write an article on. -2600:1700:2660:FDF:F438:BD65:B424:55 (talk) 19:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Lists and comparisons establish inclusion criteria, and 'has an existing article' is the one of the most common ones, and the one this list uses. MrOllie (talk) 19:23, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is a complete obfuscation of the question, and pointless wikilawyering. There is no Wikipedia rule that lists must contain strictly bluelinked articles, nor is there any precedent for that. There is similarly no rule that someone has to write an article to include it on a list. -2600:1700:2660:FDF:F438:BD65:B424:55 (talk) 19:18, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Consolidating Suggestions for Additions
editIn no particular order, these sites/apps have been suggested for addition to the list:
- FaceDate
- Hinge
- The League
- Plenty of Fish — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johathom7 (talk • contribs) 22:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- We only add entries here that have a Wikipedia article. If you believe the service is notable, write the article and then ask for it to be added here. GermanJoe (talk) 20:48, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Of the sites mentioned above, only FaceDate doesn't have its own page now. -- Dyaluk08 (talk) 20:39, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Add any notable site you like, regardless of editors acting like they own articles. -2600:1700:2660:FDF:F438:BD65:B424:55 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- The list has inclusion criteria, telling people to ignore them is just wasting their time. - MrOllie (talk) 19:24, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Inclusion criteria can be modified, changed, or blanked by any editor with reason. You don't own this article. The inclusion criteria are needlessly strict, and counterproductive. -2600:1700:2660:FDF:F438:BD65:B424:55 (talk) 19:28, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Not without establishing a consensus in support of such changes. No one owns this article, including yourself. MrOllie (talk) 19:29, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please point me to where consensus was established for that rule. -2600:1700:2660:FDF:F438:BD65:B424:55 (talk) 19:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- It is the standard that has been enforced by the several editors who actively maintain the list. If you want to discuss it formally, go for it. I'm sure they'll notice the talk page and chime in sooner or later. I'd start by coming up with a proposal for what you think it actually ought to be, instead of arguing about what you think it shouldn't be. MrOllie (talk) 19:40, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, so there isn't one. So it has been "enforced" without any consensus, which is cometelo contrary to your ridiculous claim. So, because there is no consensus, I am reverting. Please obtain a consensus before rolling back. I don't care what anyone has "emforced" in the past with no consensus, which you pointed out is the bar to set a standard. 2600:1700:2660:FDF:C668:F741:CBC2:5648 (talk) 03:43, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's not how Wikipedia works. The onus is on you to get a consensus to make a change. MrOllie (talk) 12:24, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- So no consensus is required to make a claim, no matter how untenable, but a consensus is required to change it to the null position. This is absurd. You're being argumentative for the sake of being right, not correct. Every claim is subject to consensus. The claims herein never achieved consensus, and therefor are ignorable. 2600:1700:2660:FDF:4533:8C4:A500:43AA (talk) 02:20, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Ranting isn't going to change anything. MrOllie (talk) 02:53, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- So no consensus is required to make a claim, no matter how untenable, but a consensus is required to change it to the null position. This is absurd. You're being argumentative for the sake of being right, not correct. Every claim is subject to consensus. The claims herein never achieved consensus, and therefor are ignorable. 2600:1700:2660:FDF:4533:8C4:A500:43AA (talk) 02:20, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's not how Wikipedia works. The onus is on you to get a consensus to make a change. MrOllie (talk) 12:24, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, so there isn't one. So it has been "enforced" without any consensus, which is cometelo contrary to your ridiculous claim. So, because there is no consensus, I am reverting. Please obtain a consensus before rolling back. I don't care what anyone has "emforced" in the past with no consensus, which you pointed out is the bar to set a standard. 2600:1700:2660:FDF:C668:F741:CBC2:5648 (talk) 03:43, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- It is the standard that has been enforced by the several editors who actively maintain the list. If you want to discuss it formally, go for it. I'm sure they'll notice the talk page and chime in sooner or later. I'd start by coming up with a proposal for what you think it actually ought to be, instead of arguing about what you think it shouldn't be. MrOllie (talk) 19:40, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please point me to where consensus was established for that rule. -2600:1700:2660:FDF:F438:BD65:B424:55 (talk) 19:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Not without establishing a consensus in support of such changes. No one owns this article, including yourself. MrOllie (talk) 19:29, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Inclusion criteria can be modified, changed, or blanked by any editor with reason. You don't own this article. The inclusion criteria are needlessly strict, and counterproductive. -2600:1700:2660:FDF:F438:BD65:B424:55 (talk) 19:28, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Please update this article!
editThe data on the number of registered users for each site (one of the most important facts) are typically more than 10 years old. Two of the most popular dating sites Hinge and Plenty of Fish, both of which have well-developed articles, are missing from the table. Online dating is kind of a big deal in 2022. A good comparison table on Wikipedia would be a valuable public service.
Tinder
editWhy isn't Tinder listed here? Grillofrances (talk) 23:42, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- I came here wondering the same thing haha- it's because there was a formatting error about halfway through the article. This led to the rest of the list, including Tinder, not being visible on the main page. I've fixed this so it should be visible now! User:Greerble (talk) 17:41, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
registered vs active users
editShould there be two different columns for this? Registered users is meaningless in my opinion. Why do we care if thousands of bots registered each day and never returned? Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 17:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC)