Talk:Comparison of database administration tools
The header of one of the columns in the first table is missing. What should it be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Sinnema (talk • contribs) 15:51, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
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Reply to speedy deletion request
editNot finished yet. -- 196.217.95.155 (talk · contribs · logs) 02:49, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- Why this page is deleted etch time. -- Anas2048 (talk · contribs · logs) 18:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
This wiki page is missing the notations used in SW, for example, Chen, Bachman, Crow's Foot, etc.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.69.124.91 (talk) 19:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
not mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.179.74.208 (talk) 23:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Please add it if you get a chance!! Highspam (talk) 23:17, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- This TODO item is now complete. Philipolson (talk) 19:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Added it to /*General*/ today. I didn't get to the features list so it still needs to be added to that. Some of the other tools are totally deprecated like MySQL Lite Administrator and should probably be removed. Mlehner616 (talk) 19:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Issues
editPlease review Not sales and Not advertising (issuing public service announcements). -- Jreferee t/c 16:59, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Multiple Products
editThere are several listed tools that are actually several products. For example, Toad has different editions for each of the major DBs with different price points for each one. I'm not sure how to take this into account in the table. Should they be split out into different rows?
- Toad for Oracle: $870.00
- Toad for SQL Server: $595.00
- Toad for DB2: $1,500.00
Another example is SQLyog which has an Enterprise Edition and a Community Edition [1]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchellfx (talk • contribs) 20:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- We should split them. I think we also need a price column. Highspam (talk) 23:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Plugin
editWhat is the category supposed to be? Does it indicate that the program is extensible via plugins or that the software in question is a plugin? Mitchellfx (talk) 20:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
It indicate that the program is extensible via plugins.
SQLyog
editSQLyog runs fine (other than looking like an ugly Windows application!) in Linux w/ WINE. They company supports (even the GPL version) it under WINE. Personally, I have run SQLyog this way for ~5 years without much problem (fewer problems than running it under Windows, for sure). Unfortunately, it is ONLY MySQL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.99.19 (talk) 01:58, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- In the table SQLyog is listed as running under linux, but running in wine shouldn't be considered as running natively. I can't tell from the website; does it run natively under linux? I expect not if they support it under wine, however it looks like there are linux versions of their other products 216.13.37.10 (talk) 18:11, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Could we add a yellow 'Yes via Wine' to help distinguish between actual native Linux applications and those which must be run through Wine? --50.192.192.209 (talk) 20:10, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I changed to the "Depends" template for SQLyog instead of "Yes", and indicated the Wine (software) requirement. David Oberst (talk)
BigDump
editBigDump: Staggered MySQL Dump Importer
- Useful for large database imports on shared web hosts with restrictive timeouts.
Products that should be added
editThese products aren't on the list:
- DBConvert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slotix (talk • contribs) 00:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- DBeaver
- DBKISS
- DbVisualizer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.46.62.22 (talk) 09:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- Intelligent Converters — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.143.40.156 (talk) 08:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- MonoSQL
- RazorSQL
- SQL Buddy
- DbVisualizer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.46.62.22 (talk) 09:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Berebi (talk • contribs) 02:34, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
- http://www.sqltools.net/
- http://www.pebblereports.com/sqlpal/
- http://www.spectralcore.com/fullconvert/
- No Articles on Wikipedia - so no they should not be added. Vrenator talk 09:21, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- That's incorrect. This has come up before. Please review the comment I made to MrOllie:
- If you review the selection criteria in WP:SAL, nowhere does it mention any notability requirements for list entries. The Wikipedia article on notability specifically states "[notability guidelines] do not directly limit the content of an article or list." The selection criteria mention notability as a common selection criteria but, since this is not mentioned on the discussion page nor in the lead section of the list, it does not apply to this list. Please recall that notability criteria for a Wikipedia article do not apply to entries in lists.
- Notability is intended to control which articles get published on Wikipedia , not what is contained in those articles. If we are only comparing Notable database tools, then the article should be named Comparison of Notable Database Tools. Otherwise, every database tools should be listed in the comparison. I think a list of notable database tools is a far less useful article (and less open/fair, since we will be picking which products get to compete in the list based on their popularity rather than allowing them to compete based on their features). -Highspam (talk) 19:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- That's incorrect. This has come up before. Please review the comment I made to MrOllie:
- No Articles on Wikipedia - so no they should not be added. Vrenator talk 09:21, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
MS SQL Ops Studio (Microsoft SQL Operations Studio) -- 2A02:908:DF54:F540:6DB5:F3A:2B7B:A40B (talk) 11:43, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
SPAM
editThis page is nothing but a list of external links which is totally in contravention of WP:Spam. I suggest this list either be removed completely or stripped down to remove external links to companies or products which are not notable (don't have an article on WIkipedia). Unless anyone comes up with an argument to the contrary I may start removing some of the spam links. Vrenator talk 09:23, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- Do you intend to remove entire entries or just the external links? I support removing the direct external links. Before deleting each, please consider whether they can be converted to references. I have added another banner. --Kvng (talk) 15:19, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- The question I think is what is the criteria for inclusion? On many of these lists it is notability which is defined by having an article on Wikipedia, if not for the application itself at least for the company which produces it. As very few of the items listed have Wikipedia pages then maybe they should be converted to references. Vrenator talk 16:59, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- I've tidied it up making external links into references and removing red links. I think there's a lot of items which need to be removed as there are no sources but I think it's an improvement. Vrenator talk 14:20, 25 November 2011 (UTC)