Talk:Coffee sniffers

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Andythechef in topic Changing 'War Invalid' to 'Disabled Veteran'?

Did you know nomination edit

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The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 13:35, 6 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

 
Coffee sniffers

Created by SoWhy (talk). Self-nominated at 13:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC).Reply

  •   Article is new, long enough, well and neutrally written and properly referenced. Sources are in German, which I cannot read, but using machine translation I am satisfied that they support the content and that there is no copyvio; Earwig also detects nothing. Image is PD, so fine. Hook is amusing, interesting and sourced appropriately in the article. Awaiting QPQ, then this will be ready to go. GirthSummit (blether) 11:15, 3 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
  •   QPQ now completed, AGF on the foreign-language sources (since I'm reviewing in machine translation), this is now good to go. GirthSummit (blether) 12:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


Changing 'War Invalid' to 'Disabled Veteran'? edit

Commonality edit

As far as I can tell, the term "disabled veteran" is a direct synonym for "war invalid" and vastly more common in modern speech. While it's a crude measure, searching google for the prior year shows 254k results for "disabled veteran" and 808 results for "war invalid", many of which contain content from older war documents.

Nationality edit

Dictionaries say "War Invalid" is chiefly British. Wikipedia says British English should be used for British topics, while US English should be used for US topics— and both are fine (as long as they're consistent) for general topics. This article is neither British nor US Centric. It does use the American spelling of license: '[...] it was to make sure people were wearing licensed wigs.' but that's not particularly persuasive.

A quick google search for "disabled veteran" "gov.uk" shows that the British government uses the term, so the change is not likely to confuse British readers.

Term of art edit

If "war invalid" connotes a technical distinction that "disabled veteran" doesn't, it's not obvious from context, and should probably be considered technical language.

From the style guide:

"Some topics are intrinsically technical, but editors should try to make them understandable to as many readers as possible. [...] Do not introduce new and specialized words simply to teach them to the reader when more common alternatives will do."

My reading of that still points to changing it.

Takeaway edit

Overall, the term seems arcane and lacks meaningful distinction from more common terminology. This is not my area of expertise, so I'll let this sit here a while before changing it.

Andythechef (talk) 21:08, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply