Talk:Climate categories in viticulture

Proposals

Hello

In the list, one of the major wine producing countries in the world is not mentioned: Germany. I'm not an expert, but I think most of the German vineyards are in the maritime climate zone. Two possible exceptions might be the Kaiserstuhl (mediterranean) and the eastern vineyards (continental).

Furthermore, the lists are not logical. Why are there 3 sub-bullets with Chile? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.64.77.138 (talk) 08:59, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

There are also humid subtropical wine-producing regions, including in Texas (which is not Mediterranean.) Heff01 (talk) 19:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

The Texas Hill Country grows Mediterranean grapes in a humid subtropical climate. Heff01 (talk) 04:48, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, we need more German zones. All of the western German zones (most German viticulture) have a Cfb climate which is continental by French standards, but oceanic by Koeppen standards (as are Burgundy and Alsace.) Placement of German and Alsace/Lorraine wines thus becomes problematic. I did add Saxony as a clearly continental example. It is farther east in Germany. Heff01 (talk) 02:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I corrected the three sub-bullets with Southern Chile. 21:10, 29 August 2015 (UTC)Heff01 (talk)

New Zealand

Not most but all New Zealand wine regions are Cfb maritime. Heff01 (talk) 05:49, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Central Otago may be considered continental by French standards and likely has the southernmost commercial vineyards in the world. Heff01 (talk) 05:07, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Actually Argentina goes a little farther south. Heff01 (talk) 05:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Xinjiang

Xinjiang is among the coldest-winter areas of the earth to be utilised for grape production. The summer is warm enough in some areas to make up in part for this. It is dry and irrigation is often required. Imagine the ice wines waiting to be tasted by Western palates! Heff01 (talk) 05:22, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Northwest US and Chile

Puget Sound, Southern Oregon, and Willamette Valley AVA's actually have dry enough summers (compared to their respective winters) to be Csb (also found in some wine regions in Chile and South Africa.) Heff01 (talk) 06:54, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Most, if not all wine regions of Chile are Csb due to the Humboldt Current, the Andes, and narrowness of the South American continent at those latitudes. Heff01 (talk) 02:44, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

The Walla Walla Valley is actually Csa. Heff01 (talk) 03:13, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Mexico

Much potential, but outrageous 40% per bottle tax which has prevented Mexico from competing with southern South America. Heff01 (talk) 04:38, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

East Asia

Although most Japanese wine is in humid subtropical areas of Honshu, I have included humid continental areas in the list. Latitude and/or altitude puts it there. Heff01 (talk) 05:58, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Most Chinese and Korean wine-growing regions are continental. Heff01 (talk) 06:03, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Korean wine is almost all from non-grape sources, which is why I do not list it here. Heff01 (talk) 21:02, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

The Matsumae Peninsula of the southern extremity of Hokkaido is maritime. It is separated from Honshu by the Tsugaru Strait and the hardiness zone ranges surprisingly up to 8b. Here is the hardiness zone map: [1] The peninsula is easily comparable to the East End of Long Island, Block Island, and Martha's Vineyard in terms of daily temperature averages, but has less of a diurnal range than these counterparts from the Outer Lands of North America. Heff01 (talk) 23:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

NE Black sea coast

There is a belt of wine production on the NE side of the Black Sea from Crimea to central Georgia. Altitude and distance from the sea determine whether it is Cfa or Cfb. Heff01 (talk) 05:24, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

This zone continues around the Black Sea into Turkey beyond Trabzon. It was an early 'wine crescent.' Heff01 (talk) 05:28, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Victoria, Australia

Mostly maritime wine regions except for some inland western areas that are hotter in the summer and (in many cases) dry enough to require irrigation. Heff01 (talk) 05:31, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Turkey

All four zones (the big three plus humid subtropical.) Heff01 (talk) 05:30, 5 April 2017 (UTC)