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JonRidinger, Sabbatino, all others- WP:NFCCP#3b and WP:FILESIZE are both clear: lower resolution versions of non-free files are always preferred. Why is a .SVG file needed for a copyrighted logo when there is already a .PNG version of comparable quality? Anything over 300px for the infobox is excessive. Dozens of past discussions at WP:NFCR & WP:FFD conclude the same. Levdr1lp / talk17:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
SVG displays better across all mediums since it can be resized without losing resolution. See WP:IUP#FORMAT ("Drawings, icons, logos, maps, flags and other such images are preferably uploaded in SVG format as vector images. Images with large, simple, and continuous blocks of color which are not available as SVG should be in PNG format.") and countless examples such as at Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Browns, and Kent State Golden Flashes, which also use SVG versions of their copyrighted logos. Sabbatino placed the proper tag on the logo file to have the display version reduced, though it's not like the current SVG version (512x215) is excessively large. Fairly normal procedure for any kind of logo. You'll find many, if not most, professional and collegiate sport logos and even university seals are in SVG. --JonRidinger (talk) 18:22, 19 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
NHL, NFL, NBA, NBA D-League – all teams have SVG logos. MLB – 3 or 4 SVG logos are missing. Sames goes for any other league, tournament, team or even company, for example, Coca-Cola, which is even larger. SVG logos are preferred instead of PNG. And that's why some templates and bots exist – to keep everything in order. I also see that previous SVG logo was removed "thanks to you" and I don't know if you had any discussion with the user who objected your action, but it's obvious that there are some polices, which you or anyone else don't know. – Sabbatino (talk) 18:42, 19 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
What you both seem to be missing here is the scalability of the .SVG file. While its "nominal" size (width) is 512px, the original file does not have resolution in the sense of other, pixelated file types and can be enlarged many times over. The largest .PNG version derived ("rasterized") from this file is 1280px. That's excessive. The original .SVG file can be enlarged even further, and there's nothing to stop anyone from deriving an absurdly high resolution version of this copyrighted logo directly from Wikipedia (e.g., enlarge .SVG version to its max, take screenshot, convert to .PNG or other file type). Whatever improvement in image quality exists on mobile devices (which is what I assume you're referring to, JR) is negligible compared to clear violation of WP:NFCCP#3b. Policy with legal considerations would seem to supersede format recommendations. (Sabbatino- I will assume you made an error in comparing the copyrighted Canton Charge logo to the public domain text logo for Coca-Cola which falls below the threshold of originality and is therefore not relevant to a discussion on non-free files.) Levdr1lp / talk02:13, 20 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
SVG preference is the main factor here. You throw all those policies, but don't see what's written that if SVG is available it should be used instead of PNG. I somehow don't see you going to the Cavaliers' or Browns' articles and removing it. How are they different? Just because their shown resolution is smaller? They are still scalable. As for the The largest .PNG version derived ("rasterized") from this file is 1280px. argument – look at the mentioned teams' images and you'll see that they all go to 1280px. Of course you can get it even larger when you change it manually from 1280px to let's say 4000px in the browser's address field. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:38, 20 January 2017 (UTC)Reply