Talk:Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport

List of Former Destinations

• Airlines	Destinations
  Air France	Paris–Charles de Gaulle
  AirTran Airways	Orlando
  Allegheny Airlines	Baltimore, Detroit, Louisville
  American Airlines	Charleston (WV), Chicago–O'Hare, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston–Intercontinental, Memphis, Nashville, New York–LaGuardia, Pittsburgh, Washington–National
  American Eagle	Dayton, Louisville, Nashville, Pittsburgh, St. Louis
  Branson Air Express	Branson
  Britt Airways	Evansville, Indianapolis
  Comair	Akron/Canton, Allentown/Bethlehem, Appleton, Asheville, Ashland, Atlanta, Atlantic City, Baltimore, Bangor, Binghamton, Birmingham, Boston, Buffalo, Burlington, Cedar Rapids, Champaign, Charleston (SC), Charleston (WV), Charlotte, Charlottesville, Chattanooga, Chicago–Midway, Chicago–O'Hare, Cleveland, Colorado Springs, Columbia (SC), Columbus, Dayton, Des Moines, Detroit, Erie, Evansville, Fayetteville/Bentonville, Flint, Ft. Wayne, Grand Rapids, Green Bay, Greenbrier, Greensboro, Greenville, Hartford, Harrisburg, Houston–Hobby, Houston–Intercontinental, Huntington, Huntsville, Indianapolis, Jackson, Jacksonville, Kalamazoo, Kansas City, Knoxville, Lansing, Lexington, Little Rock, London (ON), Long Island/Islip, Louisville, Madison, Manchester (NH), Memphis, Midland, Milwaukee, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Mobile, Moline, Montreal, Myrtle Beach, Nashville, Nassau, Newburgh, New Haven, Newport News, New York–JFK, New York–LaGuardia, Newark, Norfolk, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Panama City Beach, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Portland (ME), Providence, Raleigh/Durham, Richmond, Roanoke, Rochester, Sarasota, Savannah, Shreveport, Sioux Falls, St. Louis, South Bend, Springfield (MO), State College, Syracuse, Toledo, Toronto-Pearson, Traverse City, Tri Cities, Tulsa, Vail, Washington–Dulles, Washington–National, White Plains, Wichita, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, Wilmington (NC)
  Continental Airlines	Denver, Denver–Stapleton
  Continental Connection	Cleveland
  Continental Express	Cleveland, Houston–Intercontinental, Greensboro, Las Vegas, Newark
  Delta Air Lines	Albany, Allentown/Bethlehem, Albuquerque, Amsterdam, Anchorage, Asheville, Austin, Baltimore, Baton Rouge, Birmingham, Boise, Brussels, Buffalo, Burlington, Chattanooga, Chicago–O'Hare, Cleveland, Colorado Springs, Columbus (OH), Dallas/Fort Worth, Dayton, Daytona Beach, Frankfurt, Freeport, Ft. Wayne, Fort Walton Beach, Grand Rapids, Greensboro, Harrisburg, Hartford, Hayden/Steamboat Springs, Honolulu, Houston–Hobby, Houston–Intercontinental, Indianapolis, Jackson (MS), Jackson Hole, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Knoxville, Lexington, Little Rock, London–Gatwick, London (ON), Louisville, Manchester (NH), Memphis, Mexico City, Miami, Milwaukee, Montego Bay, Montréal–Trudeau, Munich, Nashville, Nassau, New Orleans, Newark, Newburgh, Norfolk, Oklahoma City, Ontario, Orange County, Paris–Orly, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Portland (ME), Portland (OR), Providence, Puerto Vallarta, Punta Cana, Raleigh/Durham, Richmond (VA), Rochester, Rome–Fiumicino, San Antonio, San Diego, San Jose (CA), San Jose del Cabo, San Juan, Sarasota, South Bend, St. Louis, Syracuse, Toledo, Toronto–Pearson, Tucson, Vail, Vancouver, Washington–Dulles, West Palm Beach, Wilkes–Barre/Scranton, Zürich
  Delta Connection	Akron/Canton, Albany, Allentown/Bethlehem, Appleton, Asheville, Ashland, Atlanta, Atlantic City, Augusta, Bangor, Baton Rouge, Billings, Binghamton, Birmingham, Buffalo, Burlington, Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, Champaign, Cape Girardeau, Charleston (SC), Charleston (WV), Charlottesville, Chattanooga, Chicago–Midway, Clarksburg, Cleveland, Colorado Springs, Columbia (SC), Columbus (OH), Dayton, Daytona Beach, Des Moines, Erie, Evansville, Flint, Fort Lauderdale, Fort Walton Beach, Fort Wayne, Grand Rapids, Green Bay, Greenbrier, Greensboro, Greenville, Harrisburg, Houston–Hobby, Huntington, Huntsville, Indianapolis, Jackson (MS), Jackson (TN), Jacksonville, Kalamazoo, Knoxville, La Crosse, Lafayette, Lansing, Lexington, Little Rock, London (ON), Long Island/Islip, Louisville, Madison, Manchester (NH), Melbourne, Memphis, Miami, Midland, Moline, Montréal–Trudeau, Mosinee, Myrtle Beach, Nassau, Newburgh, New Haven, New Orleans, Newport News, Norfolk, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Orlando, Owensboro, Panama City Beach, Panama City–Bay County, Pittsburgh, Portland (ME), Providence, Rapid City, Richmond (OH), Richmond (VA), Roanoke, Rochester, Saginaw, San Antonio, Sarasota, Savannah, Shreveport, Sioux Falls, South Bend, Springfield (IL), Springfield (MO), State College, Syracuse, Tallahassee, Toledo, Traverse City, Tri Cities, Tulsa, Vail, Washington–Dulles, West Palm Beach, White Plains, Wichita, Wilkes–Barre/Scranton, Wilmington (NC)
  DHL Aviation	Reno
  Eastern Airlines	Atlanta, Miami, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Melbourne/Orlando
  Frontier Airlines	Fort Lauderdale, Houston–Intercontinental, San Francisco, Trenton, Washington–Dulles
  Laker Airways (Bahamas)	Nassau
  MarkAir	Washington–Dulles
  Midway Airlines	Chicago-Midway, Orlando, Tampa
  North Central Airlines	Milwaukee
  Northwest Airlines	Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul
  Northwest Airlink	Detroit, Memphis
  Pan American World Airways	Cleveland, Kansas City, New York–JFK
  Piedmont Airlines	Charleston (WV), Charlotte, Lexington, Louisville, Newark, Norfolk, Wilmington
  Republic Airlines	Milwaukee, Philadelphia
  Sabena	Brussels
  Sunworld International Airlines	Cayman Islands
  Trans World Airlines	Boston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, New York–LaGuardia, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, St. Louis
  Ultimate Air Shuttle	Chicago–Midway, Morristown (NJ)
  United Airlines	Newark
  USA3000 Airlines	Cancún, Fort Myers, Punta Cana, St. Petersburg/Clearwater
  US Airways	Baltimore, Buffalo, Columbus, Detroit, Indianapolis, Louisville, Orlando, Pittsburgh, Washington–National
  US Airways Express	Charlotte, Chicago–O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth, Dayton, New York–JFK, Miami, Philadelphia, Washington–National
  Wow Air	Reykjavik
  Wright Airlines	Cleveland, Cleveland–Burke, Dayton

Triple landing/takeoff

As I understand it, the ability to perform triple landings/takeoffs is pretty rare. Maybe there should be a page listing airports with this capability? Bigpeteb 18:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Done! Stinger20 (talk) 23:07, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Mosaics

There really should be something in this article about the Depression-era mosaics on display in baggage claim - the ones salvaged from Union Terminal. Pzavon 18:31, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Done! Stinger20 (talk) 03:48, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Cargo Airlines?

Currently listed are airlines such as Air France, Continental, and US Aiways under the cargo airlines section. The links provided do not go to any seperate cargo division of the airlines, and there is no indication that they operate strictly cargo flights out of the airport. Currently, I do not think it is the policy of WP: Airports to include comercial airlines that carry only hold cargo to the cargo operators list, so unless anyone has thoughts otherwise, I will trim the list down to pure cargo airlines. --KPWM_Spotter 22:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Done! Stinger20 (talk) 03:48, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Delta dropping flights from CVG?

I've been hearing lately about Delta dropping their CVG-HNL flight, it this true? Can anyone confirm? Spongefan 20:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Yep Stinger20 (talk) 03:48, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Pages

• Pilcher, James. "Why CVG lost half of all flights." Cincinnati Enquirer. May 24, 2010
• Pilcher, James. "Cincinnati's loss is gain for Motor City." Cincinnati Enquirer. May 24, 2010

WhisperToMe (talk) 13:38, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Loss of Comair

Sources:

• Monk, Dan. "What does Comair's closure mean for CVG Airport?" Business Courier. Friday July 27, 2012.
• "CVG has to rise above Comair’s fate." Business Courier. Friday July 27, 2012.

WhisperToMe (talk) 06:55, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Pictures

• "CVG board approves lease deal for Southern Air." Business Courier. July 17, 2012 -- Photo of former Comair HQ

WhisperToMe (talk) 07:15, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

CVG Cargo Destinations

Just to let everyone know, I am currently working on fixing the Cargo Destinations, as we all know CVG is a huge DHL Hub, and there is a lot of routes to add since there is not one unifying source. I am relying on Flight Aware to search if the route is flown consistently and not just a one time occurrence, then adding it on the list. I will try to add the flight number in my edit and if there is a route that is not being served, please let me know and delete it. Thanks. Stinger20 (talk) 19:48, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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Strange Sun Country Airlines Flight

Does anyone know why Sun Country Airlines SY#8619 using a 737-800, operated a flight from CVG-MSP on Tuesday, October 27, 2015. I was thinking it was a repo flight, but it is strange they would go through, CVG, which they do not serve, and is nowhere close to anywhere else they serve. Links: https://book.suncountry.com/SCA/checkin/flightStatusFind.jsf, https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8619. Note, I am aware that this is not a regular scheduled flight, however I wanted to see if anyone knew anything about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stinger20 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

it is probably a ferry flight. Many airlines do it this. 97.85.113.113 (talk) 04:01, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Former Destinations

Per recent discussion with Tofutwitch11, I have moved the list to the talk page for further discussion and possible permanent placement.

Stinger20 (talk) 03:42, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Hey all -- I think this is a much better location for Former Destinations. I think, if the goal is to show how service at CVG has decreased dramatically, it is better to provide passenger numbers from past years -- and maybe the number of daily departures/arrivals. This list is huge, and could be confusing. It's nice, but probably more interesting to aviation geeks like ourselves, than the general public looking to get current information. Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK) 22:16, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

After thinking about it, I am agreeing with you a lot on this, most of the list is long and uneccessary. One thing I was thinking, we could put the Delta, Delta Connection/Comair, and Air France Fligths destinations in the Delta Hub Cuts section instead to show what was directly affected by the Delta Hub Cuts. This would eliminate many of the other destinations that were removed long ago, and only leave the important ones which some people might care about. A map might also work, but that is a project for another day. Stinger20 (talk) 13:18, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

@Tofutwitch11: I added the section under DL Hub, where a link to departed flights used to be located, it only has the Delta, Delta Connection, Comair (Pre-Merger), and Air France (Which was Cut As a Direct Result of Delta Pulling Out). I also included a hide/show button to keep it out of the way of casual readers who might not care about and just want to see current destinations. Let me know what you think. Stinger20 (talk) 13:35, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

I like the section where you discuss the cuts. My issue with the collapsible table is that on mobile devices the table is not collapsible (ie, there is no way to hide it). Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK) 21:25, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

@Tofutwitch11: Good Find! I think a map would be a better way to display this, as I do not know of any way to collapse it on mobile. When I have time, I will get get that together. It usually does not take that long. Thanks for the find, I bet that list looks ridiculously long on mobile.

I would make a section of former airlines and destinations that serve the airport and briefly describe the airlines that served and/or pull out of CVG and put the collapsible table below (as long as it is sourced, it should be fine). 97.85.113.113 (talk) 06:37, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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A Gates

Does anyone know the current situation with Concourse A gates? As of December 2015 gates A20, A21, and A23 will soon be added. Are these for Allegiant and Frontier? I have heard that Southwest has been talking with the Airport Board about adding service. Before the AA/US merger: A4, A6, A7, A8, A9: American A10, A11, A12(Air Canada), A13: United A14, A15, A16, A17: US A18, A22: Allegiant A19, A22: Frontier

Adding gates A20, A21, and A23 and consolidating American and US, I would imagine we see something such as:

A4, A6, A7, A8, A9: American A10, A11, A12(Air Canada), A13: United A14, A15, A16, A17: Southwest, maybe JetBlue-pure speculation: I have not heard about JetBlue coming here soon. A18, A19, A20, A21, A22, A23: Allegiant/Frontier

Has anyone been down there recently? And has anyone heard about new destinations or airlines? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtaylor7309 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

@Jtaylor7309: I flew American last week from Concourse A, and I will be back there on Wednesday. From what I saw, most of the gates are very busy, so there is obviously a lack of gate space, so I would see the need for more gates to open. Additionally, the move of Southwest to consolidate its Dayton routes to just Chicago is promising. It is very possible these gates are being opened for a new carrier, as a new airline would need new gates. Also, Vacation Express recently moved to Concourse B, which emptied a gate, however I am not sure which. They recently have done a bunch of gate reworking and in Concourse B all the ground level boardning gates were removed and new jetways installed. Also, American has a big regional operation at CVG, especially with the new PSA base, so they are going to need to keep most of the U.S. Airways gates. I think American Expansion is also likely, with the base, such as regional jet flights to Pittsburg and Raleigh/Durnam. It is very possible that these gates are needed just for Allegiant/Frontier expansion. I think it would make sense, and is likely that both Southwest and Jetblue could announce service this year, but they are going to need more gates. Both Jetblue and Sun Country Airlines have been operating a few ferry flights through CVG recently, which could also make sense, but who knows until it happens.

Current:

- A4, A6, A7, A8, A9, A14, A15, A16, A17: American

- A10, A11, A12(Air Canada), A13: United

- A18, A19, A20, A21, A22, A23: Allegiant/Frontier

I would predict a new carrier would take over the A14,15,16,17 Block if they initiated service, but I think the new gates are for Allegiant and Frontier.

As far as rumors, altough not worthy of a section of course:

- American (More Likely) or Delta (Probably Not) Mainline to Pheonix

- American Eagle to Pittsburg and Raleigh-Durnam

- Frontier to Seattle and/or Portland

- Allegiant to West Palm Beach, San Diego, and Los Angeles

- Allegiant (Apple Vacations) to Various Carribean Destinations

- Southwest to Chicago–Midway

- JetBlue to Boston and/or Fort Lauderdale

These are all of the current rumored routes I am aware of.

As far as the article is concerned, I think that listing the three gates as newly opned plus a brief fescription that they are intended for new airline growth, wheter it be a new airline or expansion by existing airlines at the airport. Also, does anyone have a source detailing the reopening of these three gates?

Stinger20 (talk) 11:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Some useful tips for editor of this article

• WP: REPEATLINK: don't load the article down with repeated links to the same article (e.g., Delta Air Lines, Comair) - they are distracting for the reader, and are not helpful
• WP: RELTIME: avoid using relative expressions of time like "currently", "recently", "the past five years" - the reader following know when that part of the article was written, and it becomes out of date quickly.
• An airline is an "it", not a "they". Don't switch back and forth between "it" and "they".

Thank you. Ground Zero | t 16:04, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Regarding certain image captions

@Stinger20: Still, how can you tell the destination by the registration numbers? I know of a somewhat complicated way to find out (only for domestic flights, so I'm not sure how to determine that that Delta 757 is bound for LGW), but the average reader does not and could question the information in the captions. I suggest the destination info is simply removed, added to the image description in Commons with some sort of reference, or something... — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 01:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

@Sunnya343:I can add it to commons, I think most of the images actually said where they were going from their actual source. For longer/international flights, you can use the date which they were taken and easily find out their intended destionation. I will take a look and see which ones I can source, then I will remove the others. Thanks! Stinger20 (talk) 01:47, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

@Sunnya343: I am going to remove the PHL one, I cannot find a good source for this. I took the BWI one, so I know thats to BWI, I will change that on its description page. For the London one, I believe I was the one who actually put it as London, but upon new research, it appears it was bound for Amsterdam, as the flight left Amsterdam that same evening (back for Cincinnati). http://www.planepictures.net/v3/show.php?id=786060. Though, I am going to remove it anyway, especially since this is not a great way to source info. Thanks so much for going after my edits, with the amount I contribute to CVG's article, I need people challenging what I am doing! Thanks! Stinger20 (talk) 02:07, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Disputed Image - Master Plan

Updated image does not reflect the Master Plan and has no references. Disputing here but can dispute image instead if more appropriate. Torp657 (talk) 20:12, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@Torp657: How do I add references to a picture? Its no longer based on the master plan which is grossly out of date, CVG has announced other plans which I used to make this image. I would be happy to add the sources. I just removed all the old content in the section and sourced it with news articles and the new "Strategic Plan".Stinger20 (talk) 23:31, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@Stinger20: The Master Plan was updated in 2013 so is not grossly out of date by any means. The Master Plan is also required by the FAA for any airport improvement funding so is the plan of record both the airport and FAA must reference. The Amazon facility is obviously additional to the Master Plan. I have reviewed the Strategic Plan at http://www.cvgairport.com/docs/default-source/leadership/cvg-2016-strategic-plan.pdf?sfvrsn=4 and this provides no references for the Amazon facility. Whatever document you used to update the map is what needs to be referenced and should be referenced on the "Overview map of planned changes at CVG" caption.

Torp657 (talk) 09:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Torp657: Actually its very out of date because huge unexpected shifts have taken place at CVG in the last 4 years. In 2012 (when it was actually written), CVG had no LCCs, Delta was making large cuts, and United/American/US Airways had limited service. Essentially the conditions that were expected in the 2030 timeframe have already happened. The master plan calls for a decrease in gates, while the airport now is in need of more gates! Per the airport's website, they are actually updating the master plan, its listed under the business opportunities tab. Once it is released (hopefully soon!), I am sure it will provide more details on the Amazon facility. I am well aware that the master plan is required for FAA airport funding, hence why they are redoing it, but its going to take some time to finish, it started this previous October. I provided a source for the Amazon facility in the text and I will add it to the image as well. The Strategic Plan outlines the goals and CONRAC facility, which I identified in the updated text. Stinger20 (talk) 00:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

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Viva Aerobus

Recently Viva Aerobus announced a new route to CVG. They said they would fly their A320 from Cancun (CUN) starting December first. https://www.vivaaerobus.com/en/news-room/press-releases/2018/september/viva-aerobus-now-offers-more-than-100-routes-with-its-three-new-flights-to-the-us-from-cancun

Ник51 (talk) 14:27, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes please do not remove them from the route list whoever is! Thanks! Kassbtss (talk) 21:17, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Should AA CVG-PHX nonstop service be listed as year-round?

There are some news sources such as https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/american-airlines-adding-routes-at-cvg-to-miami-new-york-boston-and-more/ar-AAMVrVv and https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/american-airlines-adding-new-nonstop-destinations-expanded-service-from-cvg/ar-AAMTqJH that are saying that American Airlines is planning on expanding Cincinnati to Phoenix nonstop service to year-round, but AA CVG-PHX nonstop flights are only currently showing up in AA's flight schedules through April 4, 2022.

Should AA CVG-PHX nonstop service be listed as year round (due to some news sources stating that AA is planning on extending CVG-PHX nonstop service to year-round), even though AA CVG-PHX nonstop service isn't currently showing up in AA's flight schedules past 4/4/2022?

CVG land area dispute and correction

In the first paragraph, it states that CVG is 7,700 acres in size. This is incorrect. It is 7,000 acres in size, according to the FAA Airport Master Record for CVG and CVG (Skyvector), another FAA website. This has been wrong for over a year now. That figure was obtained from the airport website, which sometimes does not post correct information, especially how large an airport actually is. The FAA data is always correct and up to date, is what I always go by. Now I can correct this myself, but it would be reverted back, so I would like a general consensus on this point. Thank you.2601:581:8402:6620:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 (talk) 17:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)