Talk:Cimicidae/GA1

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Reviewer: Enwebb (talk · contribs) 16:28, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Happy to look this one over. Enwebb (talk) 16:28, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• The article Cimex notes that two species are commonly known as bedbugs, whereas your lead makes it sound like only one species is. Consistency would be good.

Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• "When bats evolved, they switched hosts..." I think it would be good to include "in the Eocene" to refer to the evolution of bats. Provides additional context

Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• "Among the family's distinctive characteristics are traumatic insemination, in which the male fertilises the eggs by piercing the female's abdominal wall" I think you should tack on "with its intromittent organ." to the end of this sentence, and include it in the Biology section.

Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• wikilink ectoparasite, instar, heteropteran

Done. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

• "it has been found that the last of several male inseminators, sires more offspring than his predecessors" could be put more simply as "The last inseminating male sires more offpsring than his predecessors" or something like that

Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• I thought this part of the "Biology of the Bed Bugs (Cimicidae)" pg. 353 was fascinating: " Intrasexual insemination is uncommon in nature and has been found only in onespecies (32). Under restrictive laboratory conditions, intrasexual inseminations in C. lectularius and C. hemipterus(144) occurred with increased sexual isolation and were apparently fatal for the receiver (144)" I think it would be good to include that it is unknown how males recognize females, and males will sometimes attempt to inseminate other males, which results in their death. Traumatic insemination can even cause the deaths of females according to the next page: "Recently mated females were occasionally found dead with ruptured guts (92), a condition likely caused by intromission extending through the mesospermalege."

Added. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• I think the last paragraph of Biology could be rearranged for a more logical flow, perhaps by moving the 2nd sentence to the end.

Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• I'm not sure about the section titles and organization. "Biology", for example, is being selectively applied to description and life cycle, though other aspects of the article could be broadly construed under the "biology" umbrella. I feel that "Hosts" and "Effect on hosts" are similar topics and should either be adjacent sections or subsections of the same parent topic.

Rearranged. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• Your only media is the lead image. I'd imagine there are images of cimicids feeding, at least?

Not many images available. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

There's three similar pics here of a cimicid on a bat. Enwebb (talk) 20:38, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Added one of them. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for taking on this review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• Might be worth collapsing the subfamilies and genera in the taxobox like Red rail's collapsed synonyms. Most are redlinks anyway and they stick out quite a bit into your article.

Done. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

• Ref #13 is a pre-print and has not been peer-reviewed. Looks like you could use this publication for making a phylogeny.

Removed, used the new source and redrew the cladogram from it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:12, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

I recommend User:Headbomb/unreliable, a new user script that highlights potentially unreliable sources to predatory journals or pre-prints, among other things. It's what made me notice this reference. Enwebb (talk) 02:01, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

• Drive by what is intrasexual insemination? And, "Cimicids are thought to have evolved from predatory heteropteran ancestors, with about 60% of extant species using bats as their primary hosts" I don't understand how these 2 are related. Does iron deficiency count as a physiological change? It seems all the reduced fitness examples are more physiological (and I assume they're all effects of the previously mentioned afflictions)   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:04, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

"intrasexual": just means via the, er, usual apparatus: said so in the article.

"evolved from":

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Just gave this another read-through and I'm happy with it. Thanks for nominating! Enwebb (talk) 02:01, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:03, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

And from me! --Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)