Talk:Church murals in Sweden

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 11:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

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Murals in Bjäresjö Church

• ... that some of the early church murals in Sweden (example pictured) may have been commissioned by Danish kings? Source:Nilsson 2015, p. 139

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oncosiphon pilulifer

5x expanded by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 15:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC).

• Will review this in a little bit. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:48, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

• Changed the wording so that the sentence now explicitly supports the hook, and is in line with what the source says. Yakikaki (talk) 18:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

• Looks good to me, although it appears that the source is in Swedish. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

HARV error

Yakikaki You've got a HARV error in citation 27 Lindgren 2015 -- it's not pointing to anything. —valereee (talk) 11:11, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

valereee Thanks for the heads up, fixed it. Yakikaki (talk) 11:57, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Vami IV (talk · contribs) 07:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Lead

• Church murals or church wall paintings are decorative paintings, mostly medieval, found in several Swedish churches where they adorn the vaults or walls of the buildings. Condense.

 Done Split it up and skipped some words. Yakikaki (talk) 14:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• using lime as binding medium for the paint The binding medium.

 Added Yakikaki (talk) 14:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• virtually nothing is known about their identity. Identities.

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• Around 1250, there is a stylistic shift towards Gothic style. The composition of the murals becomes lighter and more airy, while some iconographic changes can be observed. Marian themes and Christian mysticism become more popular. Combine, change to past-tense, and condense. Consider: Around 1250, there was a stylistic shift towards Gothic that saw lighter and more airy compositions and the rising popularity of Marian and Christian mystic motifs.

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• They tend to cover the entire painted surface. This is redundant; paintings always cover the painted surface.

 Fixed Changed to "wall surface", that was the point. Yakikaki (talk) 14:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Romanesque murals

• In many cases, only fragments remain.[1] The remains that do exist constitute only a small portion of the original works.[1][3] The second sentence is redundant.

 Removed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• Remains exist in c. 50 churches [...] In about 50 churches.

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• The only known Romanesque murals north of Lake Mälaren are in Romfartuna Church. Which province is Romfartuna Church located in?

 Added Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• or on the surface of the underside of the chancel arch. Delete "the surface of". The alternative to the surface would make the painting impossible to perceive.

 Removed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• The chancel arch could also contain images of saints or donor portraits.[8] Sometimes a depiction of the Passion was painted above the chancel arch.[8] Combine.

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Early and High Gothic murals

• There were also stylistic changes. This is made redundant by the first sentence of the section (and paragraph).

 Removed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• becomes more frequent Became.

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• when wooden church ceilings and barrel vaults began to be replaced by groin vaults. What material were the new vaults made of?

 Added Bricks or stone. Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Late Gothic murals

• The murals tend to cover all or most of the painted surface [...] See above.

 Removed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• [...] was typically decorated [...] Were.

• I may be mistaken but doesn't "was" here refer to "The entire church" rather than "walls and vaults"?

• Oh, oops, it does. My bad. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 00:44, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Technique

• There were therefore applied [...] They were.

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• [...] have faded by exposure to sunlight [...] Because of exposure.

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Artists

• Nothing further is however known about these artists. Redundant.

 Removed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• [...] more loosely, works showing [...] More loosely to works showing

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• [...] certain stylistic relations with each other [...] Replace "relations" with "similarities".

 Fixed Yakikaki (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

GA progress

Article passes CopyVio with a mere 9.1% likelihood. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 07:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Images are tagged/free and relevant to the article. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 07:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Sources are reliable. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 07:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

All external links present in the article are working optimally. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 00:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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