Talk:Christian state

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England and United Kingdom

The status of the Church of England as a state church seems to be somewhat complicated, since it is the established Church of a country within a sovereign state. I notice Wales is highlighted on the map, suggesting that the Church is also established there. Is that true? I don't fully understand the distinctions involved. Maybe this section could use some clarification. I'm not the one to do it. Tsmackinlay (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Norway

As of 1 January 2017 the church and state are independent. I also removed these details: and the Church of Norway "depends on state and local taxes".<ref name="Fahlbusch2003">{{cite book|last=Fahlbusch|first=Erwin|title=The Encyclopedia of Christianity|year=2003|publisher=Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing|isbn=9780802824158|page=796}}<!--|accessdate=29 November 2015--></ref> The Church of Norway is responsible for the "maintenance of church buildings and cemeteries".<ref>{{cite book|title=Country Profile: Norway|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=kq1BAQAAIAAJ|year=1994|publisher=The Unit|page=9}}</ref> John T. Flint writes that "Over 90 percent of the population are married by state church clergymen, have their children [[Lutheran sacraments#Baptism|baptized]] and [[Confirmation (Lutheran Church)|confirmed]], and finally are [[Christian burial|buried]] with a church service."<ref name="Flint1957">{{cite book|last=Flint|first=John T.|title=State, church and laity in Norwegian society: a typological study of institutional change|accessdate=29 November 2015|year=1957|publisher=[[University of Wisconsin–Madison]]|page=10}}</ref> --— Erik Jr. 10:42, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

The above is a quite meaningless statement. What does it mean to be "independent"? There is consensus on Talk:State_religion#Norway_Revisited that the Church of Norway is the state church of Norway, because it has, among other things, a special constitutional role in the country and numerous other ties to the state (e.g. an obligation for the King to be a member, an obligation for the municipalities to support its activities, etc. etc.), so it's certainly not fully "independent" of the state, although it has been granted somewhat more autonomy in day-to-day matters (a quite natural development, considering that e.g. state universities have had comparable autonomy for decades). --Per Weo (talk) 23:04, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I agree that the aforementioned discussion demonstrates that there is consensus on the Church of Norway being the state Church of that country. I also support the recent restoral of what User:Erik den yngre referred to as "details". Those are well referenced statements that demonstrate how the Church of Norway functions as the state Church, e.g. maintenance of cemeteries, marrying 90% of Norway's population, etc. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 23:45, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Agreed -- this section still does not discuss or reflect those changes. Eikko (talk) 20:24, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Samoa Officially Becomes a Christian State

I thought this would be of interest. http://thediplomat.com/2017/06/samoa-officially-becomes-a-christian-state/

De meikle (talk) 15:09, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

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Republic of Ireland

did not exist before 1948 The last State church in Ireland was the Church of Ireland and this relationship ended in 1869. The Catholic Church was never a state church although it certainly was an alternative power within the country — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cobalt69 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Osroene as a first christian state is controversial hypothesis

Well, you can look at: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osroene. It's quite enough sources to say that Osroene was not the first state. We can mention it as a hypothesys not supported by majority scholars. In other way, we'll be promoting not accepted by historians one-sided view. Even the characteristic of Osroene as a state rather than ordinary vassal is doubtful. Asatrian (talk) 06:30, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Greece

Please delete Greece from the article, it is not a Christian state anymore. The sources are obsolete... The current constitution only claims that Orthodox Christianity is the dominant relgion. --MianMianBaoBao (talk) 19:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Map coloring

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The map of nations with Christianity as their state religion is incorrect. Both Armenia and Georgia have Christianity of their state religion. This is even documented in the article.

ArmenianSniper (talk) 14:26, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Armenia?

It’s missing from the map, but isn’t Armenia still officially Christian? 108.20.37.19 (talk) 22:13, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Any reliable source for that? Vanjagenije (talk) 22:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)